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Study: Women, Men Equally Violent With Partners-When Only Partner Is Violent, It's Usually The Woman
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Posted on 07/30/2002 4:01:03 PM PDT by chance33_98


Study: Women, Men Equally Violent With Partners
When Only Partner Is Violent, It's Usually The Woman
Posted: 4:18 p.m. EDT July 30, 2002

DURHAM, N.H.-- A study by the University of New Hampshire of college students says women are as violent as men toward their partners. The Family Research Laboratory study suggests that when only one partner is violent, it is twice as likely to be the woman.

The survey questioned 1,446 students from: the Universidad Autonoma de Ciudad in Juarez, Mexico; University of Texas at El Paso; Texas Tech; and UNH.

Study author Murray Straus says the findings suggest that programs and policies aimed at preventing intimate partner violence by some women are crucial.

Straus was offering details Tuesday in Montreal at the 15th World Meeting of the International Society for Research on Aggression.

But the findings were disputed by the director of Portsmouth, N.H.-based Sexual Assault Support Services.

The executive director says her first take, after reading this, is that it seems like an oversimplified response to a complex problem.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: sillygirls; violence; women
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To: chance33_98
PURE BS!!! I have some knowledge on this subject!
101 posted on 07/31/2002 10:08:15 AM PDT by Alissa
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To: Paul Atreides
Just look at violence between the sexes on television; it is considered funny for a man to be hit in the groin by a woman. Can you imagine the outcry if a skit involved a man punching a woman in the breasts?

Ever see KingPin?

Course, she does kick his keester.

102 posted on 07/31/2002 10:15:51 AM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: chance33_98
The executive director says her first take, after reading this, is that it seems like an oversimplified response to a complex problem.

Read: This didn't turn out how we wanted.

103 posted on 07/31/2002 10:17:29 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg
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To: chance33_98
The survey questioned 1,446 students

Ahh, yes, another questionnaire/survey to determine who is more violent. As if a survey will lead us to an accurate conclusion.

The last time I heard about such a survey leading to such a conclusion, it was a telephone survey asking both male and female respondants questions like: "Have you ever pushed your partner?" "Have you ever slapped your partner?" "Have you ever punched your partner?" And then: "Has your partner ever pushed/slapped/punched you?" Like the same women who return to the hospital again and again insisting they just keep falling down the stairs and their male partners who insist, "I never touched her," are suddenly going to be entirely truthful with a telemarketer.

Are women or men more violent? I think both can be equally violent. But, just like a 3', 45-pound child may not be able to fight against his 5'4", 105-pound abusive mother, a 5'4", 105-pound woman is not much of a match against her 6', 190-pound husband. It's a matter of strong over weak, not who's more violent.

104 posted on 07/31/2002 10:24:06 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: chance33_98
I watched a movie last night where a woman slapped a man in the face for the way he propositioned her, had a man slapped the woman he would be in jail.

If I was going to be slapped, and I had a choice, I would MUCH rather have a woman slap me than have a man slap me. Wuoldn't you?!?

105 posted on 07/31/2002 10:27:37 AM PDT by technochick99
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To: Senator Pardek
Do you remember the uproar when that (female) psycho with the pick axe was executed in Texas two years ago? If she were a man, folks would have cheered!

I read a book on this woman some time before the publicity of her execution came up. Once I realized who she was, I was shocked that anyone could advocate to spare her.

106 posted on 07/31/2002 10:30:44 AM PDT by technochick99
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To: meyer
Doesn't testosterone play a major role in aggression?
107 posted on 07/31/2002 10:34:51 AM PDT by technochick99
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To: Conagher
You're missing the poing Conagher. Are you doing it on purpose or are you really interested in understanding the differences.
108 posted on 07/31/2002 11:18:50 AM PDT by Violette
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To: ~EagleNebula~
Yes, both of them are. One has even become the Vice President of a very successful company. The other is doing well, too.
109 posted on 07/31/2002 11:21:44 AM PDT by Violette
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To: Violette
"Are you doing it on purpose or are you really interested in understanding the differences[?]"

I've wondered the same thing about you for a while now.

110 posted on 07/31/2002 11:22:15 AM PDT by Conagher
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To: disclaimer
Just because the Rule of Thumb is not true, does not disqualify that fact that it has been acceptable for men to beat women for a very long time. it is still done in the Middle East; they even have a book that explains how to beat your wife so you don't leave any visible markings.
111 posted on 07/31/2002 11:24:01 AM PDT by Violette
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To: Senator Pardek
Are you for real?
112 posted on 07/31/2002 11:24:53 AM PDT by Violette
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To: Conagher
Conagher, reality really speaks loud and I like to go from my own experiences. I joined a dating service and I went out with 23 different men. I wouldn't let them pick me up from my home, I insisted that we meet for dinner. Did you know that NONE of them had a second thought about making future arrrangements with me, moving fast ahead. Hell, one had a travel itenerary a mile long that he wanted me to become a part of. No hesitation, no thought about their own safety or well-being. Why not? Because I'm a woman.

I, however, had a lot of reservation. While sitting across from these men, I asked myself, what do I not know about these men? Will they put my life in danger? That is the question I ask and always ask. I have NEVER EVER had a man express to me his concern for his own well being and that because of his fear that I could possibly be violent, he wants to take things slow.

Why is that? And, yes, I have expressed to men these concerns that I have that they might be violent and that I would like to take it slow. As a matter of fact, a guy I recently met and went out with once wanted me to spend the day with him at his place. I flat out told him I was uncomfortable with it since I didn't know him well enough and proposed we do something else. I have never had a man say that to me. NEVER!

113 posted on 07/31/2002 11:31:45 AM PDT by Violette
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To: Violette
The only two people to strike me in the last 25 years were women.

Was I injured? Not at all, but I did become concerned for a moment when one reached for a butcher knife. The police took her away.

114 posted on 07/31/2002 11:36:41 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: chance33_98
The executive director says her first take, after reading this, is that it seems like an oversimplified response to a complex problem.

Translation: "Yeah it's true, but I can't admit it or I'll lose my funding."
115 posted on 07/31/2002 11:36:44 AM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: Violette
Thank you for regaling us with your recent dating trials and trevails. I hope everyone else here was far more interested in it than was I.

I hate to break it to you, but your experiences (your attitudes toward men, really) are merely your personal history and fall within the realm of the anecdote. Just because you're deathly afraid of men doesn't mean that they're all wife-beating monsters. Until you can get past that and post some proof that backs up your irrational fears your credibility with me and apparently very many others here on this board will be zero.

116 posted on 07/31/2002 11:40:50 AM PDT by Conagher
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To: skeeter
I never said that women couldn't be violent, because they can. What I am saying is that of 23 different men, not one showed concern. I couldn't have been the only female that demonstrated concern to them for her safety.

What about you. Do you have children? Do you worry about your daughters when they go out? DO you wonder about the boys she dates? If you have a son, do you warn them about how violent women can be before they start dating? I have never heard of a father warning his son about violent tendencies in women, but have heard men express this concern to their daughters.

117 posted on 07/31/2002 11:41:47 AM PDT by Violette
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To: Conagher
I hate to break it to you, but your experiences (your attitudes toward men, really) are merely your personal history

I have sisters, too. I also have female friends and we actually talk to one another and share our experiences. I also did volunteer training at a women's shelter. The police officer that spoke to us, he probably would agree with me on a lot of what I had to say. My dating scenerio was to make a point. You can say all you want, but the bottom line is that among 23 men, not ONE, NOT ONE, expressed a concern that I could be violent. If women have the same propensity towards violence, why weren't they concerned?

118 posted on 07/31/2002 11:46:39 AM PDT by Violette
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To: technochick99
Doesn't testosterone play a major role in aggression?

  Debatable. It was long assumed to be true, as men have more testosterone than women, and tend to be more aggreessive. However a study (no reference, sorry, can't remember more than reading it) found that men with more testosterone tend to be less aggressive than men with less. So last I heard was that it was uncertain.

Drew Garrett

119 posted on 07/31/2002 11:49:14 AM PDT by agarrett
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To: agarrett
Debatable

Why then are unichs and castrated animals less aggressive?

I have a female friend that had to take testosterone for a short period of time. There were two side effects she discovered. 1) she wanted to have sex all the time and had no discretion, it didn't matter who it was. and 2) she became very aggressive.

120 posted on 07/31/2002 11:54:10 AM PDT by Violette
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