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US prisoners claim Roosevelt left them in Philippines deliberately
scotsman.com ^
| Tue 30 Jul 2002
| David Cox
Posted on 07/30/2002 1:03:01 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Roosevelt was a Democrat, he'd never leave the children behind.
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posted on
07/30/2002 1:11:47 PM PDT
by
blam
To: Tailgunner Joe
bump
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posted on
07/30/2002 1:20:04 PM PDT
by
Red Jones
To: blam; Tailgunner Joe
Looks like P.J. O'Rourke was right. FDR was rolled up the access ramp to the gates of hell.
To: blam
Oh, you would not think he would sacrifice over 2,000 Americans at Pearl harbor would U? Nahhh.....
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posted on
07/30/2002 1:23:46 PM PDT
by
haole
To: Tailgunner Joe
I can understand this woman's resentment, but her suit is better directed against the politicians who negotiated the Naval Holiday Treaty of 1925. That treaty was consumated at the behest of Great Britain, who, impoverished by the World War 1 could build no new ships. The solution was to freeze the status quo. The US junked the superdreadnoughts building in the yads and imposed a moratorium on the fortification of the Philippine Islands.
Faced with the facts that it could neither defend nor succor the islands given the restrictions, te Navy actually wanted to withdraw all substantial Army garrisons from the Phililppines (see War Plan Orange). In any scenario, it could only be recovered two to three years after hostilities had commenced.
Leonard Wood and other Army men with ties to the Philippines refused to withdraw the garrisons. In hindsight, the Navy proved right, and the Philippines was the scene of the largest surrender of US forces in history, though not in shame.
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posted on
07/30/2002 1:24:58 PM PDT
by
wretchard
To: Tailgunner Joe
"...administration deliberately used them as a tool...."Heck, I obviously missed out on being a movie star for the year I was used a tool of an abandoned US foreign policy in Vietnam. Maybe I oughtta find me a lefty lawer, too.
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posted on
07/30/2002 1:31:07 PM PDT
by
onedoug
To: Tailgunner Joe
Transcripts of those conversations were orderedto be sealed indefinitely by President Harry Truman,When a 'free country,' 'under God', finds it
necessary to do what Truman did, alarms
should go off (come on?) and stay on, indefinitely.
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posted on
07/30/2002 1:33:00 PM PDT
by
gcruse
To: wretchard
Leonard Wood and other Army men with ties to the Philippines refused to withdraw the garrisons. Churchill managed to get the troops off the Beaches of Dunkirk - Nuff Said.
To: Mike Darancette
"Churchill managed to get the troops off the Beaches of Dunkirk - Nuff Said." Churchill had estimated that he could rescue 40,000. The tenacity of the English people, in everything but a bath tub, rescued 340,000. Many were French troops.
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posted on
07/30/2002 1:44:37 PM PDT
by
blam
This sort of thing goes on all the time, and has so throughout all of history, on small and large scales. Politics, mandates, security and re-election concerns are all thrown into a pot and people of power simply get to choose how they dish it out.
The world is in desperate need of something...
To: Stevieboy
The world is in desperate need of something
HOW BOUT CHRIST? .....I think its in dire need of him
To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Couldn't hurt!
To: Tailgunner Joe
Reparations! We need reparations!
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posted on
07/30/2002 2:13:18 PM PDT
by
Redbob
To: Redbob; All
Just another reason to not trust your government!
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posted on
07/30/2002 2:30:46 PM PDT
by
Betty Jo
To: haole
You're telling me you never saw this coming? OMG I can't believe people never thought this was possible. Fortunely Roosevelt had the wisdom and forsight that if he hadn't done the things he did well.. we might just be under a German flag right now.
To: Tailgunner Joe
To: Almondjoy
AH, but it's much more lucrative and fun to scream VICTIM and, at least try, to rake in the $$$$$. It is insane for us to judge what actions were taken 60 years ago to insure our victory in WWII.
It is true that Americans and Congress was very against getting involved in a European War, much less a war with Japan (that had not yet been declared by Japan). If we had stayed isolationists we would probably all be speaking German and worshiping Hirihito, or maybe a war on our soil just appealed to Congress more than sending money and boys to Europe.
To: wingnuts'nbolts
So, I guess you don't care what actions are taken against YOU to win the war on terrorism now?
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posted on
07/30/2002 2:58:12 PM PDT
by
Betty Jo
To: Betty Jo
I made it through WWII with most of my rights intact, and that was during a democratic administration. I guess I'll be ok now, with what rights I have left. Don't see how I can stop or help except by voting, and I do that. If you're looking for a fight, look somewhere else.
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