30-mile fire front menaces southwest Oregon towns

Oregon Live ^ | 7/30/02 | Beth Quinn

[Grampa Dave]

The legacy of the Green Jihadist grows.

Can you imagine the outrage if al Qaeda thugs had set a fire that had a 30 mile long front.

Then that 30 mile long front might end up burning out 17,000 people from their homes, ranches, farms and businesses.

However, since this is Oregon where the Green Jihadists are heroes, no real outrage will be screamed at the Green Jihadists in Portland, Salem, Eugene, Ashland and any city with a university.

If this happens, it is the ultimate in Rural Cleansing via fire, the eco terrorists's Rural Cleansing Tool.

[Grampa Dave]

Fyi!

The Green Jihadists, Andy Kerr and the ONRC have been setting up this massive Rural Cleansing by fire for at least a decade in this area.

[Grampa Dave]

FYI and for your ping lists.

Is this the ultimate in Rural Cleansing by the Green Jihadists? Or is it just a big chapter in the 2002 fire season with more massive Rural Cleansing by the Green Jihadist via their tool of uncontrolled wildfires due to their agendas.

[Grampa Dave]

FYI

[Jackie222]

Has there been a statement from the greenies indicating that they know what is causing these fires.......other than lightning storms? Will they ever realize the terrible damage that they have caused?

[Jackie222]

Will they ever realize the terrible damage that they have caused?

I said that wrong....'Will they ever admit to the damage that they have caused?' Some of them know that they have done this.

[Grampa Dave]

They will never admit that their Green Jihadist agendas caused these terrible fires.

Their ultimate goal has been all along no humans in these special Druid Cathedrals. If fire is/was needed for their rural cleansing, so be it.

90+% of these Green Jihadist SOB's in Oregon are probably elated that vile humans are being rurally cleansed by fire.

However, this hopefully will wake up so called conservatives who are closet greens and a lot of moderates.

We need to develop the hard nosed attitude with these Green Jihadists along the line of "You are either with us or against us. We will not allow your Green Agendas to put our families/homes, businesses, farms and ranches in danger!"

Eco Terrorism is Terrorism!

[crystalk]

This is caused by the enviro nuts. This wood could have been a valuable resource and given lots of good jobs to Oregon.

Now up it goes in a puff of (polluting) smoke, expensive firefighting, loss of lives and homes and livelihoods.

All who lose their homes in this should sue Sierra Club and the greenies up the wazoo.

[Grampa Dave]

As predicted, the Green Jihadists at the ONRC have removed from their servers the following re their no road agendas in Oregon. That is part of the 3 legged program to create these terrible tinder box fires.

First they close the roads, then they stop all logging including even logging of dead trees, and then they stop the removal of brush.

I posted this last week and predicted that these Green Jihadists of ONRC would remove it from their servers.

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Prepared by: Southwick Associates for the: Oregon Natural Resources Council (ONRC) and the World Wildlife Fund (WWF)

ONRC Press Release 09/07/00: Economic Health is Tied to Wilderness and National Monument Protection

New report shows community economic health is associated with roadless and protected lands August 15, 2000 Acknowledgements

This study was produced by Southwick Associates for the Oregon Natural Resources Council (ONRC) and the World Wildlife Fund (WWF). The primary author was Dr. Paul Lorah with co-authorship provided by Rob Southwick. Professional comments and critical review were provided by Dr. John Bergstrom of the University of Georgia, Dr. Rebecca Johnson of Oregon State University, Dr. John Loomis of Colorado State University, and Ernie Niemi of ECONorthwest. The authors wish to thank the many who provided invaluable assistance including Ken Rait and Tim Lillebo of the ONRC; Dr. Dominick Della Sala and Dale Hile of the WWF, and Pete Morton of The Wilderness Society. Special thanks also goes to Tom Sadler of Two Dogs Trading Company. Despite the countless people who assisted in this study, the authors remain solely responsible for all content herein.

Executive Summary The purpose of this study is to help improve understanding of the relationship between economic growth and protection of roadless lands. This was accomplished using historical data regarding the economic experience of individual western and Oregon counties. By looking to the past to see how county economies were affected by the creation of wilderness areas, we gain a better understanding of how future roadless designations might affect Oregon counties. Similarly, by investigating the relationship between protected areas (wilderness, national parks and national monuments) and local economies, we can find whether limiting extractive activities on public lands limits county-level economic growth.

The issues that were examined and the major results are as follows:

In Oregon, the relationship between the environment and the economy is changing. Industries that extract raw materials are stagnating, while industries that benefit from the presence of environmental amenities are growing rapidly.

If economic sectors benefiting from environmental amenities are more important sources of economic growth than extractive industries, then the presence of roadless areas and wilderness, national parks and national monuments should not harm local economies. In fact, in the eleven western states including Oregon, the presence of protected lands (wilderness, national parks, and national monuments) and roadless areas is associated with income and employment growth:

Now for the Cluster Bohica summary:

The cluster analysis test indicates that the presence of Forest Service roadless or protected areas is not correlated with slower income or employment growth in any of the county clusters. This means that the statistical test could not find any indication that roadless or protected areas have caused county economies to grow slower. Instead, there is evidence that for some county types the presence of roadless areas is correlated with income and employment growth.

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Folks this is the Enviral Bravo Sierra that has led to Oregon's high rate of recession, companies leaving Oregon and the fire situation in the forests and other areas.

The area burning in the Biscuit/Florence fires was their prime new Druid Cathedral. Now it threatens the safety of 17,000 people in an uncontrolled wild fire!

The answer is not higher employment when you stop roads into areas and make these forests/lands into Druid Cathedrals where no one can enter. The end result are the fires that we are seeing now and the incredible recession and unemployment that Oregon having due to this enviral Bravo Sierra stuff of closing roads and no lumber or ore businesses.

The Green Jihadists have crippled the Oregon economy with their agendas. Now they have 17,000 families in a clear and present danger!

Green agendas can kill you, maim you or destroy your homes, farms, ranches and businesses. Green Jihadists are not our friends. They are Eco Terrorists who hate us!

[Grampa Dave]

By the end of this fire season, billions of $'s of timber will be a burnt sacrifice of the Druids who control Oregon.

Oregon's economy is a shambles do to the green poster boy governor and his pushing of the green agendas his two terms.

However, these Radical Greens who hate logging are happy. No greedy person or company can harvest those logs now. They are ashes!

Some how, the Club Sierras, the elites who have run ONRC, and the Andy Kerr's need to be sued in civil court for damages due to their Green Agendas. This is why they are frantically removing their agendas from their server sites.

[Grampa Dave]

I posted this last night. This is in case you missed it:

[Grampa Dave]

Here is a picture that our fellow Freeper, Wanderin, took from his driveway yesterday of the Florence Fire. Wanderin lives in Grants Pass which is east of these fires.

Wanderin, please post any new pictures that you might have or send me the link so I can post them.

[joyce11111]

Thanks for all the wildland fire postings.

[dixiechick2000]

Watching our so-called Governor say that maybe we should manage the forests better made me sick.
He and the Green Jihadists, as you so correctly call them, are criminals and liars, IMHO.

[justshe]

If one wanted to draw a logical conclusion, the agreement the Sierra Club made with Daschle to not raise a fuss re: the environmental/Nat'l Forest Management Plan exemption for South Dakota forests only, COULD be seen as a statment of sorts.

Please contact your Senators and Congressmen and urge them to protect ALL forests at risk, by granting this same exemption to all states.

[Grampa Dave]

Here is a traffic cam live video showing the smoke in one of the pass in the N. part of Oregon, the Snoqualmie Pass:

[goodnesswins]

Isn't Snoqualmie Pass east of Seattle about 80 miles?

[Grampa Dave]

You are correct. Why it was in the ODOT traffic cams, I don't know.

Thanks for catching this.

[Grampa Dave]

A slide show of pictures of the Biscuit/Florence fire taken yesterday: (link to slide show of Biscuit/Florence fire pictures, 29 July 2002.)

[madfly]

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