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To: gore3000
Evolutionism/Atheism is the religion that says that all men are little more than pond scum, that they have no intrinsic value beyond a mass of proteins and that if they are weak or lame, old or unborn they are totally worthless and may be destroyed as inconveniences.

So your objection to evolution is twofold: you are personally insulted at the thought that life arose from "pond scum", and you are afraid that if this is true, then human life has no worth. Is this a fair representation of your views?

I can't help you with the first issue, but I can tell you that as an atheist, I consider all life to be infinitely precious and worth preserving. I do not believe that abortion should be legal except for very serious health reasons such as the life or mental health (and I don't mean simple depression) of the mother are in danger. I do not believe in euthanasia, but I do believe that terminally ill people should be allowed to choose the time and mechanism of their deaths, if they wish.

I have seen and read about many instances where religion played a huge role in devaluing human life (note recent suicide bombers in the Middle East). Religion in my opinion, devalues life.

1,014 posted on 08/09/2002 5:58:44 AM PDT by Aracelis
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To: Piltdown_Woman
but I can tell you that as an atheist, I consider all life to be infinitely precious and worth preserving.

Why?

Answer: because you grew up in a Christian culture and were exposed to Christian values, which you have recognized as good. Or Jewish values. Christian and Jewish values are basically the same albeit the theology is obviously different.

The values of the world can be summed up as social Darwinism.The worth of a life here is not infinite but relative as to how much that life benefits the one in charge. It's an evil philosophy.

1,015 posted on 08/09/2002 7:03:44 AM PDT by Tribune7
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Religion in my opinion, devalues life.

You may have a point to an extent. Religion in general, and Western religions in particular, see life as a transient situation. Indeed, many Christian sects consider life to be a necessary sojourn in an evilly tainted world (hence the "in the world but not of it" attitude evinced by many). Of course we've seen the Moslem attitude toward life in this world.

1,017 posted on 08/09/2002 7:37:24 AM PDT by Junior
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To: Piltdown_Woman
So your objection to evolution is twofold: you are personally insulted at the thought that life arose from "pond scum", and you are afraid that if this is true, then human life has no worth. Is this a fair representation of your views?

I would not put it that way. My main objection to evolution is that it is an atheist ideology designed to drive away good Christians from their faith. My second objection is that it is just plain not true, and I strongly believe in the truth. I am certain that it is not true. I am certain that to many atheists human life can be taken at will without remorse. Otherwise the horrendous crimes of the 20th Century would have been totally impossible. Otherwise we would not see people killing people for a few bucks, to get rid of a witness, to cover their tracks and so on, as we see in many of the horrid crimes which have unfortunately become commonplace.

I can't help you with the first issue, but I can tell you that as an atheist, I consider all life to be infinitely precious and worth preserving. I do not believe that abortion should be legal except for very serious health reasons such as the life or mental health (and I don't mean simple depression) of the mother are in danger. I do not believe in euthanasia, but I do believe that terminally ill people should be allowed to choose the time and mechanism of their deaths, if they wish.

Well, I had not planned on discussing this as an abortion issue, but it certainly is a big part of the abortion problem. A good Christian would not kill a child due to inconvenience and when one gets down to it that's what more than 90% of abortions are all about. While you may feel strongly against taking a life, I am sure that many who do take a life, as those who have abortions, as those who perform abortions, as those who kill willfully for little or no reason, are mostly atheists. Certainly there is nothing in atheism or in evolution to give anyone a high regard for life. In fact, in evolution, a low regard for life, such as Darwin's talk of eugenics and the destruction of so called inferior races shows.

I have seen and read about many instances where religion played a huge role in devaluing human life (note recent suicide bombers in the Middle East). Religion in my opinion, devalues life.

I have already mentioned that there is a great difference between Christianity and muslims, kindly do not confuse the two. Christianity was spread by love and sacrifice, Islam by blood and plunder. Big difference.

1,088 posted on 08/10/2002 5:36:49 PM PDT by gore3000
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