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To: Piltdown_Woman
So your objection to evolution is twofold: you are personally insulted at the thought that life arose from "pond scum", and you are afraid that if this is true, then human life has no worth. Is this a fair representation of your views?

I would not put it that way. My main objection to evolution is that it is an atheist ideology designed to drive away good Christians from their faith. My second objection is that it is just plain not true, and I strongly believe in the truth. I am certain that it is not true. I am certain that to many atheists human life can be taken at will without remorse. Otherwise the horrendous crimes of the 20th Century would have been totally impossible. Otherwise we would not see people killing people for a few bucks, to get rid of a witness, to cover their tracks and so on, as we see in many of the horrid crimes which have unfortunately become commonplace.

I can't help you with the first issue, but I can tell you that as an atheist, I consider all life to be infinitely precious and worth preserving. I do not believe that abortion should be legal except for very serious health reasons such as the life or mental health (and I don't mean simple depression) of the mother are in danger. I do not believe in euthanasia, but I do believe that terminally ill people should be allowed to choose the time and mechanism of their deaths, if they wish.

Well, I had not planned on discussing this as an abortion issue, but it certainly is a big part of the abortion problem. A good Christian would not kill a child due to inconvenience and when one gets down to it that's what more than 90% of abortions are all about. While you may feel strongly against taking a life, I am sure that many who do take a life, as those who have abortions, as those who perform abortions, as those who kill willfully for little or no reason, are mostly atheists. Certainly there is nothing in atheism or in evolution to give anyone a high regard for life. In fact, in evolution, a low regard for life, such as Darwin's talk of eugenics and the destruction of so called inferior races shows.

I have seen and read about many instances where religion played a huge role in devaluing human life (note recent suicide bombers in the Middle East). Religion in my opinion, devalues life.

I have already mentioned that there is a great difference between Christianity and muslims, kindly do not confuse the two. Christianity was spread by love and sacrifice, Islam by blood and plunder. Big difference.

1,088 posted on 08/10/2002 5:36:49 PM PDT by gore3000
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To: gore3000
The Christian conquest of the Americas didn't exactly lack for blood and plunder. The killing and enslavement of Native Americans was on a scale not approached until the 20th century. Cortez and Pizzaro come to mind. The numbers killed (intentionally or by disease) far exceed those of the Islamic wars of expansion under Omar. (Perhaps because there were more people involved.)

You can learn more about the Christian conquest by reading the standard texts or even an encyclopædia article.
1,092 posted on 08/10/2002 9:32:24 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: gore3000; Doctor Stochastic
I have already mentioned that there is a great difference between Christianity and muslims, kindly do not confuse the two. Christianity was spread by love and sacrifice.

Please don't get me started on this topic. Some of the greatest brutality exercised against fellow humans was done in the name of Jesus. For a small sample, please refer to Doctor Stochastic's excellent posts within this very thread: Post 1008 and Post 1009

1,104 posted on 08/11/2002 9:03:38 AM PDT by Aracelis
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