New Reports Detail The China Threat

Insight ^ | July 29, 2002 | J. Michael Waller

[Tailgunner Joe]

[Ancesthntr]

FYI

[cynicom]

Bushs old man and his uncle say China is just a pussy cat. All we need to do is bring them into the mainstream of the world and all will be well forevermore.

[Malcolm]

I don't know where you got that. I'd have to see proof, and I mean in their writing, not yours, that this is indeed their position on it. I already know it isn't.

Anyway, anyone who takes the Chinese gov't's word on this is a fool. China, as long as it is non-democratic/communist, will always be an enemy of the US, as most non-democratic Middle East states are. I'm all for military AND ECONOMIC containment. Let's not forget, in the heat of the war on muslim terrorism, that China is working against the West at every opportunity. The gov't of China is not our friend, and as long as it is communist; never will be.....

[Tailgunner Joe]

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[meenie]

We sure do love their cheap products though.

[SauronOfMordor]

Bushs old man and his uncle say China is just a pussy cat. All we need to do is bring them into the mainstream of the world and all will be well forevermore.

Didn't we hear that before? From a guy named Chaimberland about Nazi Germany?

[cynicom]

Sauron...

Yes we did. Well intentioned people often make horrible decisions that cost the lives and fortunes of others, all in the name of being a kind and considerate person.

As a young man, Chamberlain had been sent to the Bahamas, to start hemp farms and enlarge the family fortune. He was a failure at the venture, perhaps that is why he went into government service. I believe we have many such people in our government.

[NormsRevenge]

Both reports — mandated by Congress at the end of the Clinton era to evaluate China's growing military power — ratified the long-stated views of U.S. national-security analysts that Beijing has been using cash from American consumers and investors to bankroll an ambitious military buildup that ultimately may be used to attack the United States.

Good piece .. China? DraGon or ?? .. BTW, That doesn;t mean ALL global conglomerate/corporate behemoths Are Evil , yaknow .. or does it ? ;-)

[martian_22]

The Pentagon could have saved millions(?) of dollars and four years of research if they had read the posts on this forum four years ago.

This report is no shock to the intelligence community.

[Conagher]

Sure did work with Cuba and North Korea!

[Jeff Head]

If we do not quickly change our tact and "engage" the PRC like Reagan "engaged" the Soviets, we are very apt to experience something like:

DRAGON'S FURY SERIES
A Series on the Coming World War

FRegards.

[KDD]

This is what President Bush had to say about China.

The challenge comes because two of Eurasia’s greatest powers – China and Russia – are powers in transition. And it is difficult to know their intentions when they do not know their own futures. If they become America’s friends, that friendship will steady the world. But if not, the peace we seek may not be found.

China, in particular, has taken different shapes in different eyes at different times. An empire to be divided. A door to be opened. A model of collective conformity. A diplomatic card to be played. One year, it is said to be run by "the butchers of Beijing." A few years later, the same administration pronounces it a "strategic partner."

We must see China clearly -- not through the filters of posturing and partisanship. China is rising, and that is inevitable. Here, our interests are plain: We welcome a free and prosperous China. We predict no conflict. We intend no threat. And there are areas where we must try to cooperate: preventing the spread of weapons of mass destruction… attaining peace on the Korean peninsula.

Yet the conduct of China’s government can be alarming abroad, and appalling at home. Beijing has been investing its growing wealth in strategic nuclear weapons... new ballistic missiles… a blue-water navy and a long-range airforce. It is an espionage threat to our country. Meanwhile, the State Department has reported that "all public dissent against the party and government [has been] effectively silenced" – a tragic achievement in a nation of 1.2 billion people. China’s government is an enemy of religious freedom and a sponsor of forced abortion – policies without reason and without mercy.

All of these facts must be squarely faced. China is a competitor, not a strategic partner. We must deal with China without ill-will – but without illusions.

By the same token, that regime must have no illusions about American power and purpose. As Dean Rusk observed during the Cold War, "It is not healthy for a regime ... to incur, by their lawlessness and aggressive conduct, the implacable opposition of the American people."

We must show American power and purpose in strong support for our Asian friends and allies – for democratic South Korea across the Yellow Sea... for democratic Japan and the Philippines across the China seas ... for democratic Australia and Thailand. This means keeping our pledge to deter aggression against the Republic of Korea, and strengthening security ties with Japan. This means expanding theater missile defenses among our allies.

And this means honoring our promises to the people of Taiwan. We do not deny there is one China. But we deny the right of Beijing to impose their rule on a free people. As I’ve said before, we will help Taiwan to defend itself.

[shaggy eel]

,,, Cyni, the Chinese are coming, the Chinese are coming, the...

[backhoe]

Joe, by the time I got on the 'net and figured out how to link & save stuff, China had kind of come and gone as a hot topic- so I don't have a lot on it. But some relevant sites:

-Alamo-Girl's excellent collection of Clinton & more! Links--

-Softwar!-- has tons of National Security info-

-Bill Gertz's Site-- China/Panama/ & more

-AviationNow--

-The Center for Security Policy--

-The S-300PMU [SA-10 land-based, SA-N-6 naval version] surface-to-air missile system --

-Missilie Threat--

-Lots of Info Re:Nukes, Missiles, Cox Report, etc.--

-Nuke News, about 1/3rd down in the article--

[Sawdring]

Thanks for the flag on this article Tailgunner.

[willyone]

You contradict yourself. Just remember who it was who let China slide with no consequences after the Tieneman massacre. Prescott and George Bush. The same Bush that Reagan later regretted making VP. The same Bush who let Saddam off the hook. Let us hope Junior has more sense.

[Voronin]

If this is true, then where are all the reports about China's plans to deploy/produce dozens/hundreds of ICBMs?

VRN

[Malcolm]

I have not contradicted anything. I asked in my post, which was not to you BTW, for WRITTEN PROOF of what that person stated, which neither you nor he provided. I'm sick of you anti-GOP whiners. China murdered those people, not us. We didn't applaud it at the time, but we didn't declare war on them either. What did you want us to do about it that we didn't do, a naval blockade of China? We shouldn't be trading with China in the first place, and maybe we should have suspended trade, provided it was not just us that would have done so.

Again, don't reply to my post just to be pissy. If you have WRITTEN PROOF that one or both Bushes did what the above poster accused them of, post it. It's already clear than neither of you do. I'm a political science grad, and have been following politics for 22 years, so I go on facts, not snide little opinions posted here. Post the proof or shut up.