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Message from Attorney on Traficant's Appeal
Hot Seat for Judges ^ | 07-25-2002 | Linda Kennedy

Posted on 07/29/2002 10:13:57 AM PDT by Middle Man

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To: Middle Man
First, before the vote for expulsion occurred, there was a motion to stay all proceedings until September, in order to look into the alleged corruption by the judge and prosecutor in his case. TRAFICANT WON the oral motion! However, Hefly put the pressure on Congress by asking for an electronic count, and amazingly, not one Congressman was willing to record a vote for Traficant.

This is incorrect. The motion to postpone the expulsion vote recieved numerous votes, from both parties.

41 posted on 07/29/2002 1:26:49 PM PDT by ForOurFuture
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To: Sunshine Sister
Same way he can be not guilty of the bribery charges he managed to skate on in the early-mid 80's. Of course, the IRS got him for failing to pay taxes on the $$$$ that he convinced a jury he didn't take.......

If Weasal Hair has anything on anybody, he should speak out. Jimbo's just flailing in the wind, trying to distract everyone from his obvious corruption.

Sunshine Sister queried:

How can the man not be guilty if a jury considered the evidence and found him to be guilty?

42 posted on 07/29/2002 1:39:18 PM PDT by Tickle Me Pank
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To: Sunshine Sister
But they had no evidence!

That was said over all of the testimony. Nothing except hearsay.

Traficant, the buffoon of Congress, was too smart to let the FBI get evidence for 20 years.

Traficant is stupid alright. He has spoke against the Government.

I don't think that is allowed.

So even the Republicans that think Traficant is not guilty, were afraid to vote for him.

43 posted on 07/29/2002 1:45:20 PM PDT by carenot
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To: AntiScumbag
yeah, right, uh huh, which, of course, is why he was convicted under a standard of beyond a reasonable doubt at the trial you didn't see a single minute of

You are right, I saw nothing of the trial. All I watched were the hearings and I read a lot about the trial.

Forgive me for asking but what have you read or watched?

44 posted on 07/29/2002 2:02:14 PM PDT by carenot
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To: AntiScumbag
not even shills like serpenthead carville are that blatant

Hmmm....I guess you haven't watched Carville either.

He is more than able to outdo my pitiful comments.

45 posted on 07/29/2002 2:06:37 PM PDT by carenot
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To: AntiScumbag
Thank you for the comments.
46 posted on 07/29/2002 2:20:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Tickle Me Pank
Same way he can be not guilty of the bribery charges he managed to skate on in the early-mid 80's. Of course, the IRS got him for failing to pay taxes on the $$$$ that he convinced a jury he didn't take.......

How did the IRS get him if he was found not guilty?

That makes no sence.

47 posted on 07/29/2002 2:53:58 PM PDT by carenot
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To: carenot
Agreed. A jury acquitted him knowing full well that he had received a sh!tload of cash from some unsavory folks.

He couldn't deny that he had the $$$, everyone knew he did. The IRS made him pay taxes on it.

carenot casually added to the conversation with:

How did the IRS get him if he was found not guilty?

That makes no sence.

48 posted on 07/29/2002 4:08:11 PM PDT by Tickle Me Pank
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To: Middle Man
Isn't it Congress's job to oversee the judges?

No.

Maybe they can impeach judges, but that's about it.

ML/NJ

49 posted on 07/29/2002 5:21:10 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Tickle Me Pank
He couldn't deny that he had the $$$, everyone knew he did. The IRS made him pay taxes on it.

I am trying to understand your reasoning.

He was found not guilty, but "everyone knew he had the money?

Did the IRS take him to court?

Oh, I forgot, back then they could just take it.

They still can, but because of Traficant it is a tad harder for them to do.

50 posted on 07/29/2002 5:39:41 PM PDT by carenot
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To: Middle Man
More of my thoughts about Traficant:

First: Trafficant is a buffoon, with whom I sometimes agree.

Second: I believe he is undoubtedly guilty of something, because they all are. Hell! We all are. Ayn Rand said something about this in Atlas Shrugged, which I'm too lazy to look up at the moment. One of the reasons for having so many laws and regulations that no one can possibly follow (and succeed) is that it gives control to the powers that be since they get to decide whom to prosecute. Traficant made enemies with the Justice Department, and guess who are among those who get to decide whom to prosecute.

Third and last: Traficant like to tell us that Janet Reno is guilty of Treason. If Traficant had any balls he'd call it like it is/was. Clinton is guilty of Treason. Reno, at least in the case of Chinese funny money, is probably guilty of no more than misprision of a felony, or dereliction of duty if that is a crime. Reno wasn't holding those coffees, Clinton was. Reno had no say in what technology got transferred to China, Clinton did. Reno never ate at Charlie Trie's restaurant, Clinton did. Maybe I should say misprision of felonies. I could go on.

ML/NJ

51 posted on 07/29/2002 5:41:48 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: carenot
No reasoning involved, so don't strain yourself! ;). There was no question that he had received the $$$$, nor from whom he had received it. That much was stipulated by the 'defense'. The question was - why had he received the money. He said it was a sting operation, one that no one else knew about.

Trouble was, he kept the $$$, and had to pay the taxes on it. Just think "jury nullification", and let it go at that.

Jimbo was hoping for the same this time, but didn't get it.

carenot is puzzled:

I am trying to understand your reasoning.

He was found not guilty, but "everyone knew he had the money?

Did the IRS take him to court?

Oh, I forgot, back then they could just take it.

They still can, but because of Traficant it is a tad harder for them to do.

52 posted on 07/29/2002 8:00:54 PM PDT by Tickle Me Pank
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To: Middle Man
I know nothing about the author. Could you please give me more background so I can judge this post for my own standards?

As for Trafficant, others should judge him from the "innocence" of guys like Leahy, Hillary and Lieberman.

53 posted on 07/29/2002 10:19:50 PM PDT by forest
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To: carenot
my pitiful comments

beyond adding ridiculous to that concise summation, further explication is pointless

54 posted on 07/30/2002 1:32:47 AM PDT by AntiScumbag
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To: forest
"I know nothing about the author. Could you please give me more background...?"

Her name is Linda Kennedy. She's an attorney out of Virginia, I believe. She hosts a radio show called "Hot Seat For Judges". She's assisting Traficant in some capacity with his appeal. If you link to her website you can probably email her for more information. I got what verification I could before posting so this story doesn't get too stale, since there was a lot of time-sensitive information in it. I thought her assertions about the judge's conflict of interest were...explosive, to say the least.

55 posted on 07/30/2002 5:59:34 AM PDT by Middle Man
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To: AdA$tra
I agree. John Kasich is another one I'm concerned about. I really like and respect him and am sorry he bowed out. I believe he was a victim of them little FBI reports! Well, your sin WILL find you out. People who live lives of integrity don't have to worry about FBI files or any other kind of files. That doesn't mean people can't repent for what they've done and begin to live better lives, but sin has its consequences all the same. I just have a hard time with the Clintons getting away with so much...arrrgghhh! Their day will come. I only hope I'm still alive to see it and rejoice!
56 posted on 07/30/2002 8:35:12 AM PDT by Marysecretary
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To: Marysecretary
I have even heard rumors that Kasich is/was a member of Condits "sex club". This "club" scenario possibly partially explaing why so may different male DNA samples were found in Condit's apartment...still just a rumor though. I also heard somewhere that one of the reasons that Charles Grassley from Iowa is often trotted out to make ethics charges, is that he is such a "boy scout" (as they call people with real morals in Washington) that he squeeks when he walks, and has nothing in his FBI file that can be used.
57 posted on 07/30/2002 9:43:33 AM PDT by AdA$tra
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To: AdA$tra
This just in:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/724723/posts
58 posted on 07/30/2002 9:45:32 AM PDT by AdA$tra
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To: AdA$tra
I had heard that, too. Condit's another one who gets away with "murder." My husband likes Grassley. He seems like a genuine human being, not a congressclone (clown?). I'm surprised Washington can recognize anyone with "real morals." Grassley must feel pretty out of place there!
59 posted on 07/30/2002 12:02:24 PM PDT by Marysecretary
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To: AdA$tra; Middle Man
This just in:

NEW (PROOF?) THAT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT CONSPIRED IN ORDER TO GET TRAFICANThttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/725949/posts

This in a while back:
Buush Administration Lawyers Defending Hillary-Gratis

60 posted on 08/01/2002 4:51:02 PM PDT by It'salmosttolate
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