F-16s Pursue Unknown Craft Over Region

Washington Post ^ | Saturday, July 27, 2002 | Steve Vogel

[Pro Consul]

"It was this object, this light-blue object, traveling at a phenomenal rate of speed," Rogers said. "This Air Force jet was right behind it, chasing it, but the object was just leaving him in the dust. I told my neighbor, 'I think those jets are chasing a UFO.' "

Military officials confirm that two F-16 jets from Andrews Air Force Base were scrambled early yesterday after radar detected an unknown aircraft in area airspace. But they scoff at the idea that the jets were chasing a strange and speedy, blue unidentified flying object.

[LanaTurnerOverdrive]

There is something to the story but anyone in a post 9/11 World who upon seeing F-16 fighters chasing something over Northern Virginia who has a first reaction of "I think those jets are chasing a UFO." is an idiot.

Hey, genius....apparently you are unaware that UFO stands for Unidentified Flying Object. There is nothing the least bit extra-terrestrial in the term. As of right now, this is, without argument, a UFO. Don't call people names and flaunt your ignorance in the same breath.

[AM2000]

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant, a link to the original article as posted by the original poster, on FR servers.

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/FORUM/THREAD/view-edit?edit_id=147

My question is borne out of curiousity - I'm not challenging anyone.

[maquiladora]

Wow! Thanks for the info!

I knew the guy was good, but I didn't know he was that good.

Check out the show if it's on Discovery or TLC again in the future. It's a real eyeopener.

[RogueIsland]

then again, google returned this on an image search of 'F119'

The continuously blended fuselage on that would imply a low radar cross section... ;-)

[angkor]

Does anyone here believe in UFO's?

This is as close as I've ever been to a first-person account (which is the only convincing evidence):

A kid (an employee) shows up for work one morning a few years ago at my brother's place of business. He tells the following story. His composure was unremarkable, calm, normal.

He's driving on the backroads of rural Maryland the previous night, near the Pennsylvania border. Girlfriend in the car, heading toward girlfriend's house. An extremely bright light appears on the road ahead, approaching them. They get frightened/concerned, turn around and head toward an alternate route which is 5-10 minutes from the girlfriend's house. He tells girlfriend to take cassette out of player, which also has a clock (the clock is part of the story). He looks at the clock.

As they approach a large field and intersection, the whole area lights up "like a football stadium" with a greenish light.

The next thing he knows they are stopping in Ma's driveway. He looks at the clock on the cassette player. It's 20 minutes later, and he doesn't remember how they got there. He also says that both he and his girlfriend had "aching necks" and small marks on the back of their necks.

I ask my brother - who's telling me this on the phone from his office - to go out and ask the kid to show the mark on his neck (it had happened the previous evening). My brother comes back a couple minutes later and describes a perfectly round red mark on the back of his neck, about the size of a quarter.

Now, coincidentally, there had been several other strange UFO reports in that part of Maryland over the preceding days. At least one involved green lights (in that case a person thought a nearby power transformer was on fire, but the power company said there were no problems in the area).

As this discussion with my brother was transpiring, one of the local talk shows was interviewing a UFO-ologist. My brother asks the kid to call the talk show, but he's not interested in saying anything more. In fact he never says another word about it, just shrugs it off whenever its mentioned.

[berned]

Re: your post #94. You are right, MM! BUT....

what if the govt knows a million times more than what they are admitting? And, what if the "spacecraft" are not extra-Terrestrial?

[tomkat]

sorry, had to shut down for a few ...

Wonder what her thrust to weight ratio is?

just a guess, but i'm guessin' High ...

[Momaw Nadon]

Well it had to be something that didn't belong to us if we scrambled jets to investigate it.

Well, not neccessarily.

A key aspect of keeping secrets is compartmentalization of information.

The people that ordered the jets to scramble may have not known about any secret experimental testing of advanced aircraft.

I don't claim to know what it really was.

I'm just saying that one hand doesn't always know what the other is doing.

[FormerLurker]

This isn't the first time "unknowns" visited the Washington, DC area..

Click the image below to view a streaming video clip..

PROJECT 1947

 

July 1952 - Washington, D.C., Area Radar-Visual Sightings and Related Events.

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Codes:

AFOSI - Air Force Office of Special Investigations report, from Project Blue Book files, National Archives microfilm collection.

AF Int - Air Force Intelligence Report, most obtained by Citizens Against UFO Secrecy via the Freedom of Information Act, declassified Jan. 1985.

UFOE - The UFO Evidence, National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena, Washington, D.C., May 1964. (NICAP)

CAA - Civil Aeronautics Administration (later FAA, Federal Aviation Admin.)

ARTC - Air Route Traffic Control radar center approach-control radar, CAA.

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(Note: Though Eastern Daylight Savings Time (EDT) was in effect during these sightings, AFOSI reports used Eastern Standard time. They have been converted to EDT here.)

July 13: 0400 EDT.

National Airlines plane en route to National Airport, about 60 mi. SW of the city observed a blue- white ball of light hovering to the west.   Object then "came up to 11,000 ft. [and] then maintained a parallel course, on the same level, at the same speed, until the aircraft pilot turned on all lights.   Object then departed from the vicinity at an estimated 1000 m.p.h.   Weather was excellent for observation." The crew said the object "took off up and away."  No other air traffic was reported in the area at the time.   (AF Int.)

July 14: 2012 EDT.

Newport News, Va. Southbound Pan American Airways plane at 8,000 ft. nearing the Norfolk, Va, area observed six glowing red, circular objects approaching below the airliner; objects flipped up on edge in unison and then sped from behind and under the airliner and joined the in-line formation, which "climbed in a graceful arc above the altitude of the airliner." "Then the lights blinked out one by one, though not in sequence."   Next day the crew was thoroughly interrogated by AFOSI, and advised that they already had seven other reports of red discs moving at high speed and making sharp turns.  (UFOE, p. 38-39.)

July 16: 2200 EDT.

Hampton Roads, Va.  A Government aeronautical research engineer observed two amber-colored lights approaching from the south at about 500 m.p.h.  These slowed and made a U-turn, revolved around each other at a high rate of speed, then joined by two other objects from different directions, the four sped off to the south at about 500 m.p.h.  "They moved jerkily when moving slowly.  Their ability to make tight circling turns was amazing."   (UFOE, p. 57; Ruppelt , p. 210-211, gives time as 2100 hrs.)

July 18: 0200 EDT

Washington, D. C. Radio station chief engineer observed 6-7 bright orange discs moving in single file.  Each in turn veered sharply upward and disappeared.   (UFOE, p. 160; Associated Press story, July 19.)

July 19: 2340 EDT.

ARTC at National Airport began picking up unidentified targets on radar. (UFOE, p. 160; AFOSI; Ruppelt, p. 211)

July 20: 0100 EDT.

Herndon, Va. Capital Airlines flight from National Airport called by control tower to check on unidentified radar targets saw three objects, and three more between there and Martinsburg, W. Va. "like falling stars without tails [which] moved rapidly up, down, and horizontally.  Also hovered."   Chief CAA air traffic controller Harry Barnes later said in a newspaper interview: "His [the pilot's] subsequent description of the movement of the objects coincided with the position of our pips [radar targets] at all times while in our range."   (UFOE, p. 159; AFOSI; CAA evaluation report on radar-UFO sightings.)

July 20: 0105 EDT.

Andrews AFB, Md. (Nr. Washington, D.C.). Five witnesses visually observed three reddish-orange objects moving erratically. (AFOSI.)

July 20: 0300 EDT.

Capital Airlines flight incoming to National Airport reported that an unidentified light followed his airliner from the vicinity of Herndon, Va., to within about 4 miles west of the airport, confirmed on ARTC radar.  (AFOSI;  UFOE, p.159.)

July 20: 0430-0630 EDT.

Additional unidentified targets on ARTC radar at National Airport.   (AFOSI.)

July 20: mid-evening.

Air Force radar operators at Andrews AFB weather tower tracked 10 UFOs for 15-20 minutes.   Objects approached runway, scattered, made sharp turns and reversals of direction.   (UFOE, p.160, based on detailed report to NICAP from AF weather observer.)

July 25:

July 26: 2115 EDT (to 0020 EDT July 27).

Sharp UFO targets on ARTC radar at National Airport.  Civilian pilots saw glowing white objects on four occasions, including a United Airlines pilot near Herndon, Va., and two CAA pilots over Maryland.   National Airlines pilot near Andrews AFB at 1700 ft. saw a UFO "flying directly over the airliner."   (AFOSI;  AF Int;   UFOE, p. 159-162;  Ruppelt, p. 218-221.)

July 26: 2130 EDT.

ARTC radar at National airport tracked a UFO on radar ("big target"), confirmed by Andrews AFB radar. (AF Int.)

July 26: 2150 EDT.

ARTC radar at National Airport tracked "solid returns" of "four targets in rough line abreast," and eight others scattered over the radar scope.   (AF Int.)

July 26: 2154 EDT.

Andrews AFB, Md., surveillance radar tracked 10-12 UFOs in Washington, D.C. area. (AFOSI.)

July 26: 2157 EDT.

Wash. Natl [ ] 10-12 objs on radar (AFOSI)

July 26: 2215 EDT.

[*] From this time into following morning, "good sharp targets" of 4-8 UFOs on ARTC radar at National Airport. (AFOSI.)

July 26: 2238 EDT.

Air Force Command Post notified of unidentified radar targets.   Two F-94 jet interceptors scrambled from New Castle AFB, Delaware, to investigate. (AF Int, AFOSI.)

July 26: 2304 EDT. 2323 EDT.

July 27: 0015 EDT.

Maj. Fournet (Project Blue Book Officer in Pentagon) and Lt. Holcomb (Navy electronics expert) arrived at National Airport ARTC Center.   Observed "7 good, solid targets."   Holcomb checked on temperature inversions, but they were minor and could not explain what was going on.   He so advised AF Command Post, requesting interception mission.   By the time the F-94 jets arrived from Delaware, no strong unidentified targets remained and no visual contacts were made.   (AF Int.)

July 27: 0020 EDT.

[*] F-94 jet interceptors scrambled from New Castle AFB, Del., to investigate Washington, D.C., radar- UFOs.  One F-94 pilot made visual contact and appeared to be gaining on target; both F-94 and UFO were observed on radar and "appeared to be travelling at the same approximate speed."   When the F-94 pilot tried to overtake the UFO, it disappeared visually and on radar.   The pilot remarked about the "incredible speed of the object." (AFOSI.)

July 27: 1930 EDT.

Air Force Lieutenant at Andrews AFB saw a dark disc moving slowly northeast with "oscillating rolling motion."   Clouds were moving southeast.  UFO entered base of clouds.   (UFOE, p. 161, from CAA report.)

July 27: 2100 EDT.

Air Force personnel and others at National Airport saw a large round object reflecting sunlight, apparently hovering over the Capital Building.   After about a minute, the object "wavered then shot straight up disappearing from sight." (AF Int.)

July 28:

Daily papers headlined a United Press story from Washington, D.C., that the Air Defence Command had ordered its jet pilots to pursue, and if necessary "shoot down, " UFOs sighted anywhere in the country.

July 29: 0130-0500 EDT.

Many unidentified targets tracked by CAA radar, 8-12 on the radarscope at a time, moving southeast in a belt 15 miles wide near Washington, D.C. (CAA report.)

July 29: 0300 EDT.

Eastern Airlines pilot asked to check on ARTC radar targets, reported seeing nothing.  CAA official said the targets disappeared from the radar screen when the plane was in their area, "then came back in behind him." (UFOE, p.162)

July 29: 1500 EDT.

Air Force pilot sighted three round white UFOs 10 miles southeast of Andrews AFB.   Other UFOs tracked by ARTC radar during the afternoon. (CAA report.)

July 29: 1600 EDT.

Air Force press conference at which the sightings were attributed to temperature inversions causing "radar mirages," typically ground lights reflected in the sky under freak atmospheric conditions.  Also announced new scientific program to evaluate sightings.   (UFOE, p. 162; Ruppelt, p. 223.)

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[*]  These AFOSI documents date the events as occurring on the night of July 25/26, rather than July 26/27 as indicated by all other sources.   It is assumed here that the latter dates are correct.

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[AdA$tra]

...none of these folks with their high resolution cameras can ever seem to get an image...

Duh....it's not like they show up on film. Any idiot know that UFO's and vampires do not show up on film. Seriously though, NORAD doesn't scramble jets for no reason. They do on occcasion scamble one or two when an Arab passenger gets out of his set to go to the bathroom, but other than that....

[LanaTurnerOverdrive]

LanaTurnerOverdrive signed up 2002-07-01.

[tomkat]

. . .back when men were men and women were stewardesses. . .

Quote of the Day ??

[berned]

Wow. A lot of people who had similar experiences to the kid in your story prefer never to talk about it again. Many feel degraded by the experience, and that it was a nightmare they wish to block out. Interesting!

[CyberAnt]

Actually, I think they didn't want her and beamed her DOWN to us!!

[maquiladora]

I thought about that.

But wouldn't we have picked up an IFF signal telling the controls it was one of our birds? Surely there must be some procedure that when a classified craft drifts into other airspace there's some form of protocol that would lead to Andrews just 'backing off' and letting it slide?

I dunno, I'm just guessing. But it does seem mighty strange judging by the eyewitness descriptions.

[weikel]

Beam me up there is no intelligent life in big government.

[weikel]

Ping

[tomkat]

easy there, i was just funnin' ya ...

[FormerLurker]

Anybody else find it just a bit odd that the last "flap" over Washington DC was EXACTLY FIFTY YEARS AGO?