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To: JohnFiorentino
The only likely real interest the tinfoil hats have in the timeline is the portion below in red so why don't you give the readers the benefit your analysis of that.

The timeline and location of the major events of the TWA 800 disaster was approximately as follows:

8:31:11 Intact and climbing 747 approaches 13,800 feet.

8:31:12 Initiating Event at 13,800 feet followed immediately by the commencement of the decapitation process.

8:31:43-8:31:47 Streak of light appears.

8:31:47 Explosion of Massive Fireball at 5500-7500 feet.

8:31:55-8:31:57 Splashdown of the Massive Fireball flames.
Source.

Note also the reference to the "splashdown of the Massive Fireball flames". It should go without saying that the approximately 2000 feet in diameter Massive Fireball was not confined within the wreckage and that the falltime of its flames to the surface took far longer than most of the wreckage.

By the way, if you or anyone else have any statements from witnesses including their observations of the wreckage splashdown, please present them for the readers to review.

"Does his timeline (if accurate) support IN FACT a "zoom-climb" as proposed by CIA-NTSB.....NO".

I've never said it did.

What I said is that there is no credible eyewitness support for those videos.

They are therefore untenable for their stated purpose of claifying what the streak witnesses saw.

I've never taken any position on whether the zoom-climb was aerodynamically possible under the circumstances because I don't have the training and experience to expertly evaluate that issue.

There is a continuing dispute between those who say yes which includes the NTSB experts and those who say no who are most if not all "shootdown" tinfoil hats. Frankly, that issue appears to me to be immaterial because [1] neither of the video's were ever intended to be proof of the cause of the crash, [2] the overwhelming evidence that the 747 was not the victim of a missile or bomb, and [3] the tinfoil hats haven't been able to present any compelling evidence to the contrary.

Truth is determined by facts - not suspicions, speculations, allegations or accusations.

565 posted on 08/11/2002 3:48:21 PM PDT by Asmodeus
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To: Asmodeus
ASMODEUS' DILEMMA..or"How to have your cake and eat it to"

Asmodeus says.....

As you know, my answer to that question was that "although the absence of any credible eyewitness support for the re-creation videos is evidence that the fiery events in them are inaccurately depicted, it is not evidence that the rest of the sequence of events including the loss of the nose section and the so called "zoom climb" depicted in them is inaccurate".

I say:......But YOUR timeline does rule out a "zoom-climb"

There is a continuing dispute between those who say yes which includes the NTSB experts and those who say no who are most if not all "shootdown" tinfoil hats. Frankly, that issue appears to me to be immaterial because [1] neither of the video's were ever intended to be proof of the cause of the crash, [2] the overwhelming evidence that the 747 was not the victim of a missile or bomb, and [3] the tinfoil hats haven't been able to present any compelling evidence to the contrary.

"Frankly, that issue appears to me to be immaterial"

What an interesting line of reasoning. Asmodeus believes it is "immaterial" that the very organizations which produced video portrayals of Fl800's demise--video's which he himself calls "untenable"--should on the other hand be believed when they present their "conclusions" re: the causation of the air disaster.

568 posted on 08/11/2002 4:33:57 PM PDT by JohnFiorentino
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To: Asmodeus
The only likely real interest the tinfoil hats have in the timeline is the portion below in red so why don't you give the readers the benefit your analysis of that.

The only person donning a TINFOIL hat here is you. You continue to cling to your obviously flawed timeline that has nothing to do with facts, and has clearly been proven in several posts to be utterly void of any semblence to reality. You either can't read, understand high school physics, or are just here to cause trouble. Probably a combination of all of the above from what you've demonstrated here.

Your only "source" is your own website, but you do throw around a few names as if they endorse your statements in some of your posts. Do you still claim that Dr. Harrison has anything to do with your claims or your website, or have you backed off from that assertion? You still haven't provided an email address so that he could discuss your claims with you.

You appear to be an individual who is seeking attention. You've put up a website and have made ludricous claims here on FR, yet your only source is yourself as far as your timeline. You've been shown how that timeline is impossible, yet you continue to post it with a reference to your own site that has no other links or references, so the timeline that you present is simply a figment of your imagination. You should perhaps go visit a doctor who deals with such matters...

Truth is determined by facts - not suspicions, speculations, allegations or accusations.

If you believed in that statement as much as you like to post it, you'd stop this utter nonsense, and accept the facts.

585 posted on 08/19/2002 11:45:31 AM PDT by FormerLurker
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