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Imagine there's no atheist.
rockey mountian Rattlesnake press ^ | 24/jul/02 | Darren Morrison

Posted on 07/24/2002 9:24:25 PM PDT by RMrattlesnake

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Could some one rewrite a Libratain or constitional version of the son.
1 posted on 07/24/2002 9:24:25 PM PDT by RMrattlesnake
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To: RMrattlesnake
Imagine there's no crackpots, rambling like a loon...

BTW, isn't the word Rockey, actually spelled Rocky?

Lastly, what exactly are Libratain or constitional?

2 posted on 07/24/2002 9:45:51 PM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: RMrattlesnake
Atheists aren't "God-haters". One does not hate something that he/she doesn't believe exists.

You listed "atheists" who committed atrocities. But don't forget Hitler and the Nazis who were very evil Theists.

However, you do state that you're "pro-separation". That's all that most of the nonreligious want, too. In the end, mostly everyone wants the freedom to change his/her own mind later without government intruding and telling them what to believe or what not to believe.
3 posted on 07/24/2002 9:47:26 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Lord_Baltar
Send most of my stuff to a proof reader. I can't do that with comments.

I have dislexia
4 posted on 07/24/2002 9:57:46 PM PDT by RMrattlesnake
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To: RMrattlesnake
And no religion too

After 911 I can think of one religion I could do without

5 posted on 07/24/2002 10:05:36 PM PDT by mjp
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To: mjp
Yeah, ditto here too.
6 posted on 07/24/2002 10:23:08 PM PDT by prophetic
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To: mjp
Bump
7 posted on 07/24/2002 10:24:29 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: jlogajan; BMCDA; Dimensio
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8 posted on 07/24/2002 10:27:46 PM PDT by JediGirl
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To: RMrattlesnake
Proverbs 16:25. There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.. I Believe that the Bible is the only answer. That all other beliefs end in death.

That's nice--and I think you will be reincarted as a pile of llama poo.

9 posted on 07/24/2002 10:29:23 PM PDT by JediGirl
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To: RMrattlesnake
Omagine a country where people's faith was strong enough not to need the government to support it.
10 posted on 07/24/2002 10:29:34 PM PDT by breakem
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To: RMrattlesnake
Imagine no possessions I wonder if you can No need for greed or hunger A brotherhood of man

Sounds like Christianity to me.

11 posted on 07/24/2002 10:30:45 PM PDT by JediGirl
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To: breakem
Imagine a thread with no spelling errors.
12 posted on 07/24/2002 10:31:21 PM PDT by breakem
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To: breakem
"[I]magine a country where people's faith was strong enough not to need the government to support it."

bump
13 posted on 07/24/2002 10:31:42 PM PDT by JediGirl
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To: Tired of Taxes
Agnostics are neutral....atheists are anti---militants/talibans!

Creation/God...Christianity---secular-govt.-humanism/SCIENCE---CIVILIZATION!

Originally the word liberal meant social conservatives(no govt religion--none) who advocated growth and progress---mostly technological(knowledge being absolute/unchanging)based on law--reality... UNDER GOD---the nature of GOD/man/govt. does not change. These were the Classical liberals...founding fathers-PRINCIPLES---stable/SANE scientific reality/society---industrial progress...moral/social character-values(private/personal) GROWTH!

Evolution...Atheism-dehumanism---TYRANNY...

Then came the post-modern age of switch-flip-spin-DEFORMITY-cancer...Atheist secular materialists through ATHEISM/evolution CHANGED-REMOVED the foundations...demolished the wall(separation of state/religion)--trampled the TRUTH-GOD...built a satanic temple/SWAMP-MALARIA/RELIGION(cult of darwin-marx-satan) over them---made these absolutes subordinate--relative and calling/CHANGING all the... residuals---technology/science === TO evolution via sclock science...to substantiate/justify their efforts--claims...social engineering--PC--atheism...anti-God/Truth RELIGION--and declared a crusade/WAR--JIHAD--INTOLERANCE/TYRANNY...against God--man--society/SCIENCE!!

14 posted on 07/24/2002 10:49:09 PM PDT by f.Christian
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Imagine a country where secular forces were not strong enough to ban religious expression from public life!
15 posted on 07/24/2002 10:57:36 PM PDT by pariah
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To: pariah
Good News For The Day

‘Having a form of godliness but denying its power…’ (2 Timothy 3:5)

"When we think of conversion, it is often with reference to some prodigal who turns his steps toward home; of an alcoholic who escapes the toils of his disease; of the profligate transformed-and so on. Such miracles do happen, but some conversions are of a different nature. A church member who has never doubted Christianity, who has always observed its traditions, suddenly makes a discovery-that Christianity actually works. That it is tremendously relevant. That when it is brought into existence as a way of viewing people and things; as a fortifier of the human spirit; as a source of inspiration and direction for all the business of life-it has a comprehensive adequacy. Such conversions do occur, and they are much to be desired."

"When Christ is known not as a form, but as a formidable, personal power, then he is his own evidence, his own compelling argument for faith."

"It is a supreme moment in a person's life when they wake up to the fact that the ideas of Jesus are absolutely true. At such a time they are persuaded that Christ is universal law. They see that he holds the cosmos together; that everything he is and all that he stands for is foundational, constitutional, unchangeable, eternal and immutable. They feel that they have not so much come into possession of something, but that they are possessed by what is greater than themselves, something to which their heart and mind quite naturally belongs. Only such a... realization---equips the soul to withstand the enormous batterings of antichrist."

"Many still voice their suspicions that the Christian way is not strong enough to stop the malignant advance of wickedness. But consider this-when a fire is burning and water is sprayed on it and the fire still rages, no-one thinks that water is useless for putting out fires-that fire can be quenched with water. So, despite the repeated and imperfect efforts at Christian fellowship and service, the long-range truth lies yet in Christ-in the patient, undiscouraged increase of his peace, love, hope, goodwill and moral excellence."

"May God enable you, as well as me, to proceed beyond form-to a practical knowledge of Christ's power."

My comments...

Christianity has graciously created---preserved the Republic...atheists are out to destroy---ruin everything!

16 posted on 07/24/2002 11:12:12 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: pariah
"Imagine a country where secular forces were not strong enough to ban religious expression from public life!"

Imagine a country where public life wasn't a government function, but rather the domain of private individuals freely associating on their own terms. Then there would be no government involvement requiring that we smack it back to the realm where it belongs, and squarely out of the realm of mysticism.

17 posted on 07/24/2002 11:18:19 PM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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To: Jolly Rodgers
What is atheism--satanism--evolution--LIBERALISM doing in govt?
18 posted on 07/25/2002 12:15:51 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: Jolly Rodgers
What you want is a country with no government at all, and a people with no religion at all. You will not get your wish. You think religion is all just 'mysticism'. Well, the Rights you so fervently rave about were conceived as rooted in a divine Creator, by those who first articulated them. Without belief in God, this country and your Rights would never have come into being. Banning religion expression from public life would be like taking out the thread that holds together our rational, Rights-based form of government. Libertarianism, taken to extremes, is a dangerous as atheistic socialism.

No atheist ever conceived of human Rights as we understand them, although many atheists, from Thomas Paine to Ayn Rand have jumped on the bandwagon, claiming that Rights can exist in the moral vacuum of a completely secularized society. There is no historical evidence for that, and plenty of historical evidence against such a foolish notion.

19 posted on 07/25/2002 12:37:49 AM PDT by pariah
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To: pariah
And the rights kings and emperors had in Europe were also thought to be of divine origin, hence the divine right of kings. (As far as I know the U.S. was founded to get rid of these divine rights)
20 posted on 07/25/2002 1:10:37 AM PDT by BMCDA
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