Enemy 'civilian casualties' ok by me

TownHall.com ^ | 7/25/02 | Ben Shapiro

[VaBthang4]

"When I see in the newspapers that civilians in Afghanistan or the West Bank were killed by American or Israeli troops, I don't really care. In fact, I would rather that the good guys use the Air Force to kill the bad guys, even if that means some civilians get killed along the way. One American soldier is worth far more than an Afghan civilian."

I'm in complete agreement.

As cold as it may sound....my first thought upon hearing that Palestinian children had been killed in the recent Israeli action was "Well, at least they wont get a chance to blow themselves up and kill Israeli children".

Coldhearted? Someone else can determine that.......a sane thought? You betcha.

[chemainus]

Please add me to the list of those who agree. If you are a terrorist and choose to hide among civilians then the 'civilians' are choosing to be the support troops of the terrorist and are no longer 'civilians' . The pain on the enemy, all segments, must become great enough that the enemy is defeated on the front line and at home. That pain has not yet been inflicted. The only alternative is to turn it over to the U.N. completely. The result of that will be persecution of any independent or western thinkers ( the mess in the middle east was actually started by the U.N. and its predecessor body, whether by formal signatory or not) and ultimate world socialist slavery lorded over by U.N. type folks resembling Mugabe.

[goldstategop]

They're OK by me too. American and Israeli Leftists prefer American and Israeli soldiers to die so they maintain a sense of moral hateur. F**k em.

[Bedford Forrest]

The more sand goblins killed the fewer Jews killed. Does somebody have a problem with this??? Kill ALL of the sand goblins and have done with it. How sweet it is that the ONLY people supporting the Jews in Israel are those of us whom the NYT would characterize as charismatic, gun toting Christians. The first time that Bibi calls me up and says, come on over, I need you, I'm there.

[christine]

include me too! ;)

[kattracks]

HAMAS KILLS ITS OWN

[christine]

a friend of mine says and i quote, kill 'em all and let god sort 'em out, unquote.

[Illbay]

I am getting really sick of people who whine about "civilian casualties."

Ah. Then kindly tell the anti-WOD whiners to shut up.

[MissAmericanPie]

I'm hoping that the Presidents condemnation of the missle attack in the Gaza Strip is not an indication of how he intends to fight the war on Iraq, if it ever happens.

Saddam learned a thing or two during Desert Storm, he will surround his elite forces with civilians and the fighting could be urban warfare, house to house. I'm all for using limited nuclear arms if they can target a block, two blocks, a square mile.

This will call for civilian casualties, and somebody, somewhere better have the stomach for it. I find civilian casualties much easier to take than one of our soldiers in a body bag. Our boys are far more valuable than 1,000 enemy combatants and the civilians they surround themselves with.

[Drew68]

Muslim children are nothing more than future terrorists.
Muslim women are nothing more than breeders of terrorists.
Muslim elderly are nothing more than former terrorists.

I really couldn't care less about these people and would not lose a wink of sleep at their violent deaths. I hate the whole lot of 'em.

[RightWhale]

Both America and Israel are powerful. That kind of power is being used to minimize non-combatant casualties. Even combatant casualties are being minimized. These are wars, but there are degrees of war. The military does only what is necessary and when this is over the injuries to non-combatants will be seen -- by most -- as not excessive, tragic but not unnecessary.

[gaffin]

The idea the civilian casualties are not something to cheer about is an American ideal.Don't cry over it, but cheering for it is morally corrupt. It is one step away from trying to achieve victory at any cost. That's the reality of war, but making it one of the goals of war puts the combatant on the same low level as the enemy. Only America will ever hold the moral high ground. Can't expect other nations to do the same.

[Libertarianize the GOP]

fyi

[MinorityRepublican]

The Israeli government is so afraid of world condemnation that it put its soldiers in the line of fire to gain some eternally-sought-but-never-found international praise. After the Passover Massacre, Ariel Sharon sent ground troops into Jenin to search house to house for Palestinian terrorists in order to bring them to justice. Bad move. Twenty-three Israeli boys, the proportional equivalent of 1,000 Americans, were killed in a vain attempt to prevent Palestinian casualties.

That is what I do not understand. If President Bush was in charge, he would drop daisy cutters on Jenin. C'mon, 23 soldiers had to die just so civilians had to live?

War is hell. Unleash hell.

[kancel]

I think everyone need to look back at Sept. 11 and remember what they saw on TV when they showed what was happening in the middle east. Those children, women and eldery were cheering, they were partying in the streets. There are NO innocent civilains over there.

Your words ring so true. I wish more people realized it.

[blackbart.223]

"I think everyone need to look back at Sept. 11 and remember what they saw on TV when they showed what was happening in the middle east. Those children, women and eldery were cheering, they were partying in the streets."

And the only thought running through my mind when I saw that was, what perfect place to drop a napalm bomb! We even send money to these blood suckers!

Screw em!

[VaBthang4]

"Muslim children are nothing more than future terrorists. Muslim women are nothing more than breeders of terrorists. Muslim elderly are nothing more than former terrorists."

That is one of the most asinine statements I have ever read.

....and part of the problem.

[gaffin]

Shapiro tries to draw some corrolation between the bombing of the "wedding party" and the Israeli bomb being dropped in Gaza. The bombing of the "wedding party" was in response to what the American pilots, right or wrong,thought was anti-aircraft fire. The Israelis can not make the same claim.Why is it nessaccary to make a comparision of what the Israelis do to action that the Americans have taken? This article is about justifying an action that Israelis took that they are getting flack about. And did the US "level" Kabul as Shapiro would like to do to Jenin?

[weikel]

Me too. They're all jihadist anyway.