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THE WAR IS CANCELLED DUE TO LACK OF INTEREST
7/23/2002 | Texasforever

Posted on 07/23/2002 8:06:27 PM PDT by Texasforever

THE WAR IS CANCELLED DUE TO LACK OF INTEREST

We are a little more than a month away from the 1st anniversary of 911 and I am sure that the media is gearing up for a deluge of heart rending retrospectives and for a few hours Americans will turn from the stock market and remember that long ago event with not a dry eye to be found. I say “long ago” because on American time, a year is ancient history. We vaguely remember that we fought a 3-month campaign in Afghanistan that may have killed Bin Laden but even that is unknown at the moment. We vaguely remember the anthrax mailings and the President’s speech in which he declared war on terrorism and that the war would be long and for the most part not a television event. We will vaguely remember the flood of patriotic feelings and calls for citizen participation in a war to save our civilization against an enemy that wanted to kill us and did so by the thousands.

In the weeks and months following 911, the American people were shocked into an awareness of danger that can only be described as a nerve laid bare. We accepted the fact that air travel was going to be more inconvenient and that the need for added security measures in all areas would need to be tightened up. As 911 receded and the TV action in Afghanistan gradually withdrew to be replaced by the Enron collapse and the mundane day to day events that were so common pre 911, a sense of comfort started to seep back into our lives. It has been almost a year since the last attack and we are beginning to wonder if all of this inconvenience is required. Many people from the entire political spectrum are also now asking if the government and especially this administration are using a year old event to expand government intrusion into the lives of average citizens. To make their point they cite every step the government takes to strengthen security as either unworkable, an over reaction or a sinister plot. You would be hard pressed to point to one government action that has been taken that has been viewed as positive from the media and pundits.

The administration is pilloried for issuing too many warnings, not enough warnings and the non-specificity of any of the warnings. All new laws passed are immediately interpreted as a threat, not to terrorists that may be in our midst, but to the citizens of this country. Volunteer efforts are not exempt from this onslaught with the “TIPS” program a prime example of equating a telephone tip line to the East German Stasi. The big news now is how to protect the constitutional rights of terrorist suspects. What this tells me is that many people are ready to “declare victory” and get back to our comfortable pre-911 lives. That certainly would calm the nerves of many that fear the government more than the terrorists that seem to have given up and gone home. It could be that President Bush was wrong and the war was actually only 3 months long and that any further action will be far away from our shores as we have come to expect.

I would truly hate to be in the shoes of this or any other president given public’s loss of urgency in the War on Terror. If he actually believes, based on all information given to him that there remains a serious threat to the country and he does not take the steps he and his advisors deem necessary and an attack succeeds, he is through as president and with him his party and depending on the nature of the attack maybe the country. If he does take the steps required he is in the situation he faces today, a public that has decided that an attack unmade is a threat not real and it is time to go back to our comfortable slumber unencumbered by needless and “dangerous” laws and government intrusion and inconvenience. There is validity in fearing expansion of government and the attendant powers it assumes. That is always a threat from any government ever conceived by man. That fear is sometimes tempered by an external threat dire enough to balance the fear of our own government against the fear of the external threat such as terrorism. I sense that the external threat is no longer perceived as strong enough in the War on Terror to keep the perception of being at war. Without television coverage of bombs dropping and anti-aircraft fire in ghostly green streamers and Pentagon press conferences war is not a state many feel the country is in.

One thing we have learned is that no “war”, without public support and cohesiveness of purpose, can be won and certainly not a war that is without a defined battleground and an easily identifiable enemy that is what we are used to and that image is ingrained in our national psyche. For a short 5 months there was a battleground, it was in downtown Manhattan and in our nation’s capitol. It was on an airplane that was headed for the White House and brought down by ordinary citizens fighting an identifiable enemy. It was in Afghanistan complete with Pentagon Briefings and eerie green battle scenes. That was war. But that was long ago and far away. The new War, in the minds of many, is now called, “The War on Our Civil Liberties” and is now being fought on the familiar battleground of politics and agendas. It is a war against the possible abuses of a government that many people are far more afraid of than an enemy that appears to have given up. They may be right. I pray they are.


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To: Fred Mertz
You idiot party folk look more and more like clintonistas every day. Too bad you can't see it.

Fred, you libertarians, with your chicken little, sky-is-falling, mentality are like broken records.

Those of us who follow you know what you're going to say before you say it.

21 posted on 07/23/2002 8:49:50 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
Don't tell anyone spinky, but I'm a card carrying Republican.
22 posted on 07/23/2002 8:52:15 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: general_re
In any case, setting that aside, how does this administration keep people focused short of another Reichstag fire?

I don't think it can. There are, even now, people that will tell Reichstag fire if another attack is made. There are those that will yell "wag the dog" if and when we invade Iraq. The country has lost what focus it ever had and now it is back to politics, conspiracies and Oprah.

23 posted on 07/23/2002 8:52:17 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: sinkspur
Yeah. The libertarians can be counted on to gripe and bitch, like the kid with a sack of marbles who's constantly counting them, thinking somebody took one when they weren't looking.

I think the more apt metaphor would be . . . strawberries.

24 posted on 07/23/2002 8:54:08 PM PDT by AmishDude
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To: sinkspur
Bet you money that Bush will have a renewed effort for the military to take on those bad terrorists somewhere around the first of October.
25 posted on 07/23/2002 9:04:59 PM PDT by gunshy
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To: gunshy
Bet you money that Bush will have a renewed effort for the military to take on those bad terrorists somewhere around the first of October.

Wag the Dog?

26 posted on 07/23/2002 9:09:12 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: abner
Who are we at war with?
27 posted on 07/23/2002 9:10:27 PM PDT by gunshy
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To: Texasforever
I fear political correctness and complacency from our own citizens and politicians almost more than the terrorists. At least they are real and we can fight back.

I got teary reading your post. Very well done. Thank you.


28 posted on 07/23/2002 9:11:15 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: Texasforever
No offense, but I hope you're wrong. ;)

After all, if you're right, it's really just a matter of time before someone reaches out to smack us again...

29 posted on 07/23/2002 9:11:54 PM PDT by general_re
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To: general_re
What do you think will happen?
30 posted on 07/23/2002 9:12:59 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: general_re
After all, if you're right, it's really just a matter of time before someone reaches out to smack us again...

It's not like it will be the first time ..

31 posted on 07/23/2002 9:14:49 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Texasforever
Yeah, why not. The american sheeple will fall for anything and it may get a few pubbies re-elected. Remember, the ends justifies the means.
32 posted on 07/23/2002 9:25:22 PM PDT by gunshy
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To: Texasforever
We'll get fat and sassy again, and someone out there will notice. We'll bitch about how long it takes to get to get on an airplane, or how long it takes to cross the border, and gradually we'll return to how things used to be, to make everyone happy.

And if al Qaeda is gone, there's certainly no shortage of other folks out there who wish us ill, and now they've seen that we can be hit, and we can be hurt. They'll have a convenient template for how to hit us, left over from Osama, and we'll be sitting ducks again because we're too damn shortsighted to put up with even the minor inconveniences of having our bags searched before getting on a plane. And someone will see that and take advantage of it.

33 posted on 07/23/2002 9:25:29 PM PDT by general_re
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To: general_re
That's pretty much how I see it also.
34 posted on 07/23/2002 9:28:25 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: gunshy
Yeah, why not. The american sheeple will fall for anything and it may get a few pubbies re-elected. Remember, the ends justifies the means.

So in your mind anything that happens between now and the elections will be staged to elect "pubbies"?

35 posted on 07/23/2002 9:30:47 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
You summarized and conveyed your thoughts well.

I personally believe that most americans in fly-over country have neither forsaken the administration nor forgotten about the enemy and why/where we fight.

I do belive the media however conveys the opposite. If you belive the media is an accurate guage of America, your fears would be well founded, but again most 'folk' read the same reports you do and scratch their heads wondering why has everyone else given up? Am I the only one who cares? There is a large untapped consensus to fight this thing thru and rid ourselves of a menace.

That said, we do live in interesting times and there is much to contend for the common man and the medias attention. Weapons of mass distraction as it where. Stock market, banking stability, corporate scandals, church scandals, child molestation, world famine, etc.

Normally a war would get a lot more attention, but there is only so much attention to go around.
36 posted on 07/23/2002 9:31:32 PM PDT by Starwind
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To: Texasforever
I would truly hate to be in the shoes of this or any other president given public’s loss of urgency in the War on Terror

You know .. I don't think the public has lost it's urgency

I think most folks just trust this President to take care of it and to protect them

There will always be folks out there that don't have a clue as to what is going on .. but I think in general .. most trust this President

And if we are attacked again .. that is if history is any indicator .. they will hit us again .. I believe folks will continue to stand by this President and the War

BTW .. nice thread .. there is a lot to think about here

37 posted on 07/23/2002 9:34:33 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: general_re
Well I can't disagree with that post
38 posted on 07/23/2002 9:36:27 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Texasforever
Should add, the administration shoots itself in the foot when it frisks blue haired old ladies in airports, can't seem to police the borders, and can't seem to investigate a terrorist's PC until they blow up the WTC, or investigate who was behind OKC.

Many 'folk', myself included, would be more comfortable with the added security machinery if we saw the existing machinery being fully utilized.
39 posted on 07/23/2002 9:36:32 PM PDT by Starwind
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To: Texasforever
No. I only agree that I am more afraid of a loss of civil liberties and constitutional protections from our own "well meaning" government than I am of whatever is left of Al Quida.

If we are at war, Congress should declare war, that war any "emergency measures" can end when the war does. This business of undeclared war with defacto permanent new police powers worries me.

40 posted on 07/23/2002 9:41:26 PM PDT by Ahban
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