[mamaduck]

I agree, Hank. Jesus said to love others AS WE LOVE OURSELVES, not instead of or more than, etc. Yendu is making the error that if we self-determine "good" it is from reason rather from our God-given conscience, or Holy Spirit within each of us INDIVIDUALLY.

[yendu bwam]

Yendu is making the error that if we self-determine "good" it is from reason rather from our God-given conscience, or Holy Spirit within each of us INDIVIDUALLY.

I agree 'good' doesn't come from reason! But our consciences are not good enough either - for we are all tempted to do bad things! Christ taught that we need God to overcome that tendency.

[Hank Kerchief]

I agree, Hank. Jesus said to love others AS WE LOVE OURSELVES, not instead of or more than, etc.

Exactly!

Altruism is a worldly and collectivist philosophy, and, unfortunately, way to many who call themselves children of God have spread and supported this morality destroying philosphy.

Hank