Yendu is making the error that if we self-determine "good" it is from reason rather from our God-given conscience, or Holy Spirit within each of us INDIVIDUALLY.
I agree 'good' doesn't come from reason! But our consciences are not good enough either - for we are all tempted to do bad things! Christ taught that we need God to overcome that tendency.
143 posted on 07/22/2002 6:22:42 PM PDT by yendu bwam