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2nd Bug Expert Bolsters Westerfield Defense: (Dusek Melting Down Before Juries Eyes!!)
NBC/San Diego ^ | July 22, 2002 | NBC/San Diego

Posted on 07/22/2002 3:02:31 PM PDT by FresnoDA

2nd Bug Expert Bolsters Westerfield Defense

Expert Says Fly Infestations Show When Danielle's Body Was Dumped

 

POSTED: 6:58 a.m. PDT July 22, 2002
UPDATED: 2:28 p.m. PDT July 22, 2002

 

SAN DIEGO -- The trial of David Westerfield resumed Monday with more testimony about insects, as defense lawyers tried to show that their client was not the person who dumped Danielle van Dam's body along a two-lane road in East County.
Before testimony began, Judge William Mudd warned jurors to ignore last week's murder of a young girl in nearby Orange County. Mudd said that the abduction, sexual assault and murder of 5-year-old Samantha Runnion "bears no relation" to the trial of David Westerfield.

Westerfield's trial had been in recess since July 11 so the judge could take a previously scheduled vacation.

Westerfield, 50, lived two doors from Danielle, who vanished after her father put her to bed the night of Feb. 1. Searchers found the girl's nude body on Feb. 27 along a rural roadside east of San Diego.

Neal Haskell, forensic entomologistA forensic entomologist, testifying Monday for the defense, said Danielle's body could not have been dumped at the roadside before Feb. 12, according to his analysis of flies and larvae collected during an autopsy. The blow flies that were found on the body typically descend on a cadaver shortly after death, but it can take longer in cooler temperatures, entomologist Neal Haskell said. Based on his analysis of the temperatures in the area at the time, Haskell (pictured, right) put "the time of colonization" likely at Feb. 14 and no earlier than Feb. 12.

Prosecutors challenged the defense's weather data.

Haskell's testimony puts the time the body may have been dumped several days earlier than suggested by a previous defense witness, entomologist David Faulkner. The defense has seized upon the time of death, which could not be precisely determined, to suggest that the body was dumped at a time when Westerfield was under constant police surveillance.

Westerfield was put under observation soon after Danielle disappeared, according to police testimony. He was arrested on Feb. 22.

During Haskell's testimony about insects devouring Danielle's body, the girl's parents, Brenda and Damon van Dam, stared at the floor as they sat in the back row of the courtroom. It is the first time that Damon van Dam has been in court since Judge William Mudd banned him from the proceedings almost a month ago as a security risk. Mudd restored his trial privileges just before going on vacation.

Lawyers for Westerfield have said they expect to offer two to three more days of testimony.



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TIME FOR THIS ! !!!!!!!! OFFICIAL DW TRIAL THREAD GLOSSARY

150-QUADTRILLION-TO-ONE= Proof that Danielle was an Alien whose DNA could not match any individual of the human population on 25 million earth-like planets

ASSJACKALS=close relative of the Jackass...a person who spends too much time complaining about other people.

BARBED= Having reached the point of being too hot to handle for either the prosecution OR the defense.

BEETLEMANIA= resulting frenzy of hard-shelled insects when their party is moved to another location and postponed for another two weeks.

BUGOLOGIST=hound: a person who is an amateur entomologist who is convinced that the bugs have stated that DW is innocent regardless of blood, fibers, hair and child porn.

BUGOUT= When the first entomology forensics expert hired and normally used by the Prosecution is used to support the defense. As a result, the Prosecution goes out and hires another bug guy from far away that will testify the way he is told.

CHAMELEON-FIBER= a "dull orange" fiber that perfectly matches a "bright orange" fiber when viewed through the world's finest laboratory instruments.

DISTURBEDJACKAL= has to disrupt the ongoing discussion with pointless, idiotic and smartass remarks. His panties are probably in a wad 24/7 and his momma didn't teach him better.

DAMNEDTHREADJACKAL=a hybrid phenomenon that is made up of a THREADJACK and a VAN-DAMNED-IF-I-KNOW within the same person.

DRAMAQUEENJACKAL= A person who either over-dramatizes the subject, or falsely accuses someone else of lying and INTENT is never proven by the dramaqueenjackal.. They ironically confuse lying, with being mistaken. They assume they can read into the hearts and minds of seriously dedicated followers of the PEOPLE VS WESTERFIELD case.

DUSEKED= to have your fragile house of prosecutorial cards collapse when your witness is FELDMANIZED.

DUSEK’S MADNESS= the affliction someone has who knowingly attempts to send an innocent man to the death chamber in spite of glaring exculpatory evidence.

FAULKERNIZED= a natural process whereby maggots destroy a month's worth of court testimony in two hours.

FELDMAN FOR DUMMIES=The art of understanding how defense doesn't deny anything, doesn't deny the blood, hair, fiber and child porn..but spends his time deflecting it towards someone else.

FELDMANIZED - Judicially castrated; having reduced a reasonably intelligent witness to a blithering blob with the coherence of Rain Man and the believability of x42; usually accompanied by rhythmic thumping of DA's head on table. See DUSEKED.

FIRECRACKERS = Posters on a thread that appear as: A bunch of noise and sparks, a little fire, but mostly smoke, and then after a while, they are gone.

FISHES AND LOAVES PIZZA= A seeming unending supply of pizza. Can be bought at NOON on a Friday, and it will feed a family of 5, then will feed the same family of 5 + 2 more guests until 8:30pm, then will feed Mom,Dad, and four guests around 2am Saturday Morning.

GRACEFULL= full of self-importance (as in Nancy Grace), to the great annoyance of others

HELLOCINATING= the Swing Set's delusional belief that everyone they met wanted to come home with them.

HOSED=being subjected to 24 hour surveillance due to unrolled hose in yard.

HTML CODE SHRIEKING - repeated use of large, colorful fonts in posts. To the annoyance of some, the amusement of others, and the bafflement of newbies.

INSECTOPHILE - To be conversant in life cycles and mating of obscure insects, sprinkled with multi-syllabic terms from college level biology and meteorology. Caused by prolonged exposure to a BUG GUY.

THE IMMACULATE ABDUCTION= The kidnapping of Danielle Van Dam by an unknown (Alias SUPER NINJA DAVE), who broke into a locked house, which had alarms, and a dog, and a father and three children inside. He kidnapped the young female, while drunk, carried her out of the house, flew her to his motorhome (see caped outfit), and murdered her. While in the house, he left no prints, no DNA, no hairs, no fibers, not one piece of evidence he was ever there, and neither the dog, the father, nor the two other children ever noticed anyone had been in their house and walked past their open bedroom doors.

JACKASSES="the tendency to tell every little thing about oneself that very, very few really care to hear, and do it repeatedly."

MAGNETOMANIAC= A suspect who devises theories of how the "immaculate abduction" took place.

PIZZA-EATERS: Usually a group of 5 or more of guests and/or family members that is customarily needed to eat a neverending pizza. See: FISHES AND LOAVES PIZZA

PIZZA-PARTY = After coming home from the bar at 2am with friends, new friends, total strangers, you head to the garage for PIZZA. (PIZZA is AKA drugs, sex)

PREMATURE ACCUSATION=An arrest by police of a suspect before they have done investigative work on all of the evidence which might indicate which suspect is the most likely perpetrator.

SCAPECOAT= the jacket owned by DW with Danielle's tiny spot of DNA

SIX-PACK= PIZZA-EATERS all in one bed.

SLUTJACKALS=(1)a bisexually aggressive female type species, with out scruples, restraint, or moral fiber. Willing to settle for anything that satisfies basal desires, and in any way considered momentarily convenient.(2)Masters of deceit, sinister, cold-hearted, savage creatures which prey upon ambushing unsuspecting neighbors.

SWING-SET= For those who don't like playing in the sand box. Usually a set of six, who share the set and enjoy highs and lows.

SWINGER-SIX =Brenda, Barbara, Denise, Larry, Mo and Curly (AKA PIZZA-EATERS)

THREAD BANG = A GROUP OR GANG of 6 or more THREADJACKALS, in an organized attack and posting via the pile on method...accomplished by singling out a small number of posters, and focusing on mundane misinformation....IE: Underwear vs. Jogging Shorts!

THREADJACKALS= Those that get on the threads only for an hour or so, and without any knowledge of the facts of the discussion, proceed to tell everyone else (THREADHOUNDS) how wrong they are, how rude they are, how badly they treat posters like themselves(FIRECRACKERS)

THE NEVER-ENDING-JOINT= A rolled cigarette of marijuana (wackyweed) that can be smoked by 4 people at 830pm , then smoked by 4 or more people several times in the parking lot of a bar, then can still be smoked by six people in a garage , at 2 in the morning. (Save the roach!)

THREADHOUND= Someone who dominates the threads all day, and howls at anyone that won’t agree with them, because they think they know more than anyone else. .

VAN DAM DAMN VAN = a blue van used in Damon Van Dam's wild ride through all the probable dump sites for Danielle's body on the weekend of Feb 16th. Although Damon does not report having found the body that weekend, the flys did. Now missing in action.

VAN-DAMNED-IF-I-KNOW: A poster who joins mid-thread and mid-trial and has less than a thimbleful of information, but spouts off anyway.

WILD BUG CHASE=Going through a series of BUG EXPERTS, one after another, questioning them in endless circles, in an attempt to get them confused.

AND THE NEWEST ADDITIONS:

JACKAL-JACKAL= someone that has continues to overuse the word JACKAL by using it again and again in combo with other words for the DW TRIAL GLOSSARY.

HIGH LYING VAN DAMS=Description of the parents of Danielle Van Dam who were repeatedly getting HIGH while their daughter disappeared and met her death. Who now have exhibited a pattern of repeated lying about their activities to police, in the PRELIMs and in the TRIAL. In the meanwhile their daughter may have suffered unbelievable horrors until she met her death, yet they continued to lie. Even know, when finding or convicting the killer is of prime importance, they continue to hide the truth and protect their friends.

Also they have gone on, after their daughter’s death. New BMW, trip to the state fair, and appearances in COURT where they display an unusual talent for ACTING.

1,401 posted on 07/23/2002 6:28:37 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
I read that the judge refused to let Feldman's investigator sit in the court room. It seems to be someone (a woman) he uses all the time. I read, how feldman argued with the judge to let her sit and observe. The judge refused, he used the excuse = because of 911= things are different now. Feldman then asked the judge if his investigator could get -like a special clearing- to be able to get into the court room ahead of the 'line'. Judge Mudd denied that request as well. I don't remember right now what date in the transcript I read that, but I thought that that was unfair....
1,402 posted on 07/23/2002 6:29:09 PM PDT by juzcuz
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To: UCANSEE2
I guess a good question is why this dump site and why didn't the perp bury the body? Was the body dumped in the daytime or at night? Are there any houses in the immediate area? Who has been observed dumping there?
1,403 posted on 07/23/2002 6:29:47 PM PDT by crypt2k
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To: RnMomof7
I'll bet she used the power of reason. FDA posts a huge post to her inviting her to press the abuse button. Lo and behold the Admin Mod steps in shortly. Kim says she didn't press it, so, voila! somebody else did.

Circumstantial evidence.

1,404 posted on 07/23/2002 6:40:25 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
I don't look for Goff to have an easy time of it if we see him court.

  Everyone seems to assume that Goff will back up the prosecution's timeline. I'm not sure why, given that Faulkner was also originally hired by the prosecution. Which leads to my questions as to how these experts are hired.

  Do the lawyers question them before hiring them? Or pay them to support a given conclusion? In short, why does Dusek think he'll get different results from Goff than he's gotten with the other two bug guys? Or is he just taking a shot?

Drew Garrett

1,405 posted on 07/23/2002 6:45:41 PM PDT by agarrett
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To: crypt2k
Did DW have a list of "potential body dumping sites" in mind,...

Well, he did get stuck a couple times in the sand during the weekend.

1,406 posted on 07/23/2002 6:46:35 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
Nope it happens too often.....kimmy has connections me thinks
1,407 posted on 07/23/2002 6:47:22 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: crypt2k
I guess a good question is why this dump site and why didn't the perp bury the body? Was the body dumped in the daytime or at night? Are there any houses in the immediate area? Who has been observed dumping there?

Don't know. Don't know. YES, but not in a place where residents could VIEW any dumpers. That is why it has turned into an 'illegal' dumpsite.

Don't know.

1,408 posted on 07/23/2002 6:50:36 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: cyncooper
David Westerfield says he didn't do it, so, voila! somebody else did. Circumstantial evidence :) HUGZ
1,409 posted on 07/23/2002 6:51:57 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: cyncooper; RnMomof7; FresnoDA; ~Kim4VRWC's~
Before anyone else goes ballistic, I PUSHED the ABUSE button on formerDEM (post #1297, I believe). I didn't push the BIG one Fres put on his post. I pushed the regular one on that particular post, and I think it was well deserved. It was about the hugest case or personal attack on everyone I have ever seen.
1,410 posted on 07/23/2002 6:53:50 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: cyncooper
Third-party culpability?
1,411 posted on 07/23/2002 6:54:29 PM PDT by EllaMinnow
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
When did DW say he went there to rest? If it was after 3 am why so late?

Hungover ? And on a weekend bender ?

Get a rope.

1,412 posted on 07/23/2002 6:55:19 PM PDT by dread78645
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To: Jrabbit
Well, I saw what you consider "logic" a few posts back. A disoriented poster makes statements and includes my name (plus others) as supporting his "theory" when I have never said such a thing and you applaud it as "logic".

Then you throw in name-calling and now the inexplicable HUGZ.

Whatever...

1,413 posted on 07/23/2002 6:56:40 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: agarrett
In short, why does Dusek think he'll get different results from Goff than he's gotten with the other two bug guys?

Again, fairly obvious.

(1) He has demonstrated his ability to go with Unusual techiques to try an evaluate factors other experts claim are minimal.

(2) He acheived some notoriety and success, probably due more to self-promotion and a lot of luck, or maybe some intuition.

(3)He thinks, out of the box, meaning his interpretation is 'different' than whoever else you hired, else you wouldn't bother hiring him, now would you !?!?!?!?

AND (drum roll please .......!.......!......!.......!)

(4) FREE AIR TRAVEL to visit relatives on the CONTINENT !

1,414 posted on 07/23/2002 6:58:37 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
I think it's really crummy of Feldman to be so short sighted as to only want to be sure that DW is acquited and not go all the way and solve this case. We still have so many questions!
1,415 posted on 07/23/2002 7:00:01 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: cyncooper
Well, he did get stuck a couple times in the sand during the weekend.

So, he ignores all these "GOOD PLACES TO HIDE A BODY" and takes it and drops it conveniently on TOP OF THE GROUND, at an ILLEGAL DUMPING SITE,not far off the road, where IT WILL SURELY BE DISCOVERED when the city ends up having to clean up the site, BECAUSE why ?

1,416 posted on 07/23/2002 7:00:23 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: RnMomof7
Nope it happens too often.

IIRC, the old saw goes;
Fool me once, shame on you !
Fool me twice, shame on me !
1,417 posted on 07/23/2002 7:06:04 PM PDT by pyx
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To: UCANSEE2
So, he ignores all these "GOOD PLACES TO HIDE A BODY" and takes it and drops it conveniently on TOP OF THE GROUND, at an ILLEGAL DUMPING SITE,not far off the road, where IT WILL SURELY BE DISCOVERED when the city ends up having to clean up the site, BECAUSE why ?

Well, for the body being easy to discover it sure took a long time by my standards to find her. And even then look how much evidence was lost in that period of time. The body placement served the killer's purpose. We all know that cause of death cannot be definitively determined, plus any evidence of a possible sexual assault also destroyed. I'd say the killer picked a pretty good spot----from his perspective.

1,418 posted on 07/23/2002 7:07:15 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
The body placement served the killer's purpose

The body is hidden for only until the next illegal dump or human scavangers pick through the garbage. The body could have been discovered the next day.

1,419 posted on 07/23/2002 7:12:16 PM PDT by crypt2k
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To: cyncooper
Well, for the body being easy to discover it sure took a long time by my standards to find her. Well I guess long time would depend on when it was put there, 2/11 or 2/21? found what2/26 or 27??Then of course that area was supposedly searched once before but came up empty..
1,420 posted on 07/23/2002 7:14:55 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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