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To: kattracks; All
I urge everyone to listen to the witnesses that Traficant presented during the ethics hearing. You can view them on the C-span.org website, which I believe were aired during the wee hours on C-span 3. Especially listen to the testimony of the gentleman who testified during the evening session of 7/16. He says he was pressured and threatened to lie about Traficant and is believable and compelling. Listen to the whole hearing, not just the soundbites of "looney" Traficant shown on the news. His witnesses are thought provoking and he was prevented from presenting them during his criminal trial. Also read the c-span message boards of the people who have been following this closely. There is huge support for Traficant.

I always had sympathy for him believing that he was probably guilty but his crimes were less than many in Congress who have done much worse. I felt he was targeted. Now I believe he was not only targeted, but probably railroaded as well. No wonder he sounds crazy.

I have never been a conspiracy theorist, and have always had little patience with those I believed were, but something stinks here.

123 posted on 07/19/2002 9:00:10 PM PDT by SoCar
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To: SoCar
Back here, we all heard the witness you're speaking of: Richard Detore. He was believable, and he did throw out names like Torricelli, Patrick Kennedy, etc. and their uses of a certain private plane, home for parties, etc. whenever they felt like it.

But the most heartbreaking aspect was that the feds have completely destroyed this man's life, his family's life, destroyed their medical health, destroyed his finances via lawyers, and shot and killed his children's dog, and forced to wear an ankle bracelet. For what? Because, he stated, he refused to lie about JT for the feds. He alleged that the feds brought up Janet Reno and JT said some things about her and the administration wants him out. (Yes, our government at work.)

It was my impression the Committee believed him, as did everyone back here. However, the politicians' aim is to get Rep. Traficant out of Congress.

130 posted on 07/19/2002 9:35:52 PM PDT by EastCoast
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To: SoCar
I have been following Traficant stories since I first saw him on Fox News yelling about Janet Reno and the fact that he was going to be indicted. He was rude, crude, knee slapping entertainment. His story I found was quite captivating and so caught my interest that I came to be introduced to the One-Minute Speeches on his congressional website. Brazon speeches and that I copied, pasted and passed around in email. Does anyone remember him saying on Hannity and Colms that he possessed or had knowledge of a video of Janet Reno with Asian hookers and how those rendezvous came to be?

Traficant is one of my daily key word searches for articles of interest to me on FR. Tonight's search, bringing up articles from March 7th to date, I find that this post on Rush’s comments have sparked more comments and the most favorable support for the man than any other thread I have seen to date.

Could someone please tell me, would it be procedurally possible for Traficant, before his expulsion, to call for a vote to open the room containing the evidence from the impeachment. I am one American who would like to know before I leave this earth, just what the life long Democrat, former Chicago Prosecutor David P. Schippers, who, under Attorney General Robert Kennedy, served as leader of the Justice Department’s Organized Crime and Racketeering Unit, and who convicted such mobsters as Sam Giancana and Sam Battaglia, and his investigative team were able to put together. I can hardly fathom that these boxes upon boxes of investigative materials that he discusses in his book “Sellout” didn’t even spark enough interest for one DemonRAT representative to go and look at it. It just ticks me off that they locked it up so no one could see it.

Additionally, I am surprised that the media has not latched on the story of the testimony of Richard Detore before this Ethics Committee. I noted from a google, transcripts of Mr. Detore's prior appearances before congressional committees as an expert witness. One would think that what he had to say in this hearing might spark a little media interest. Even if it were only equal to the amount of coverage of the recently ended trial of former FBI agent John Connolly, I would like to see it. Does anyone when Connolly will receive his sentence?

I hope Traficant goes out with the "whistle-blowing farewell expose" that Rush has asked for.

134 posted on 07/19/2002 10:23:43 PM PDT by Diva Duck
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To: SoCar
"I urge everyone to listen to the witnesses that Traficant presented during the ethics hearing. You can view them on the C-span.org website, which I believe were aired during the wee hours on C-span 3. Especially listen to the testimony of the gentleman who testified during the evening session of 7/16. He says he was pressured and threatened to lie about Traficant and is believable and compelling. Listen to the whole hearing, not just the soundbites of "looney" Traficant shown on the news. His witnesses are thought provoking and he was prevented from presenting them during his criminal trial. Also read the c-span message boards of the people who have been following this closely. There is huge support for Traficant. I always had sympathy for him believing that he was probably guilty but his crimes were less than many in Congress who have done much worse. I felt he was targeted. Now I believe he was not only targeted, but probably railroaded as well. No wonder he sounds crazy. I have never been a conspiracy theorist, and have always had little patience with those I believed were, but something stinks here."

Except for the fact that I have ALWAYS been a conspiracy theorist, I agree with your post 100%. Mr. Detore was extremely compelling and I believe totally honest. His life has been ruined because he would not testify against Traficant. If their case was that solid, why would they pressure him to testalie against Traficant.

166 posted on 07/20/2002 10:16:20 AM PDT by Badray
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