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Administration mum on snooping program
www.wnd.com/ ^ | July 17, 2002 | Jon Dougherty

Posted on 07/17/2002 6:14:22 PM PDT by It'salmosttolate

POLICE STATE, USA
Administration mum on snooping program

Justice Department official calls reports of
citizen-informant system 'premature'

Posted: July 17, 2002
5:00 p.m. Eastern

By Jon Dougherty
© 2002 WorldNetDaily.com

The Bush administration says information published this week regarding a new government informant program was "premature" and that officials are nowhere near ready to implement it.

A Justice Department spokesman, however, did confirm the program's existence today, directing WorldNetDaily to a website located at www.citizenscorp.gov. He said the site contained all the information the agency currently was prepared to release regarding "Operation TIPS," a new anti-terrorism informant program described as the "Terrorism Information and Prevention System."

The information on the site "is probably far less than you're interested in," the spokesman, who did not identify himself, told WND. "We don't have much more to say about it right now except what's there."

Asked about specifics of the program in a report published by The Sydney Morning Herald on Sunday, the Justice Department official said there was nothing to confirm.

"All of the stuff that got out was so premature it was ridiculous," he said. "The program is still in development."

According to the Herald report, the administration – under the guise of President Bush's Citizen's Corps volunteer program begun in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks – is seeking to recruit up to 1 million mail carriers, utility workers and others who have frequent access to private homes as terrorist informants.

Based on information published on the Citizens Corps website, the program was scheduled to begin in the next few months.

"TIPS is scheduled to be launched in late summer or early fall 2002," says the website. "The goal of the program is to establish a reliable and comprehensive national system for reporting suspicious, and potentially terrorist-related, activity."

"We're hoping to have all the details finalized by August or September," said the department spokesman. "That's going to be about the earliest" that officials will have the infrastructure in place, he said.

Other reports claim the government will initiate TIPS under the auspice of a 10-city trial program, but administration officials are not saying which cities are involved in the trial.

Also, officials have refused to explain how a federal informant program could pass constitutional muster, while a similar state or local program likely would not. Civil-liberty groups worry about the potential for abusing the rights of innocent citizens.

The TIPS website says informant data gathered by "several industries" would be collected at a single "central reporting center." And over time, "Operation TIPS will be phased in across the country to enable the system to build its capacity to receive an increasing volume of tips," said the website.

"The Department of Justice is discussing participation with several industry groups whose workers are ideally suited to help in the anti-terrorism effort because their routines allow them to recognize unusual events and have expressed a desire for a mechanism to report these events to authorities," said the site.

Officials say the program will rely on worker-informants to "use their common sense and knowledge of their work environment to identify suspicious or unusual activity."


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1 posted on 07/17/2002 6:14:22 PM PDT by It'salmosttolate
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To: It'salmosttolate
It looks like they ran it up the flagpole to see who would salute, and instead thought they spotted an enraged citizenry with pitchforks and torches.
2 posted on 07/17/2002 6:24:02 PM PDT by APBaer
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To: APBaer
I nominate that for the "Quote of the Day"
3 posted on 07/17/2002 6:28:22 PM PDT by It'salmosttolate
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To: It'salmosttolate
Your screen name seems more appropriate theses days than ever!
4 posted on 07/17/2002 6:35:00 PM PDT by Howie
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To: APBaer
Here comes the Stasi.
5 posted on 07/17/2002 6:42:03 PM PDT by billybudd
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To: billybudd
Can anyone currently access www.citizenscorp.gov ?
What happened?
6 posted on 07/17/2002 6:46:53 PM PDT by John W
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To: John W
It's working here, I just pulled it up along with TIPS on the side bar.

7 posted on 07/17/2002 6:50:33 PM PDT by Japedo
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To: John W
Can anyone currently access www.citizenscorp.gov ?

I wouldn't go there anyway, they might have some snoop program or whatnot. Who can trust people that would have us spying on each other?

8 posted on 07/17/2002 6:52:06 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: phasma proeliator
PING
9 posted on 07/17/2002 7:11:56 PM PDT by jdogbearhunter
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To: John W
Try www.citizencorps.gov (drop the middle "s" -- there's a typo in the article)
10 posted on 07/17/2002 7:41:13 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: It'salmosttolate
"The Department of Justice is discussing participation with several industry groups whose workers are ideally suited to help in the anti-terrorism effort because their routines allow them to recognize unusual events and have expressed a desire for a mechanism to report these events to authorities," said the site.

Ghostbusters!

11 posted on 07/17/2002 7:46:59 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: jdogbearhunter
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!.....
12 posted on 07/17/2002 7:48:38 PM PDT by phasma proeliator
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To: It'salmosttolate
Sig Heil!
13 posted on 07/17/2002 7:50:51 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: It'salmosttolate
HEY! Maybe they can recruit UPS to do it!

(since they already have the shirts.. )

14 posted on 07/17/2002 7:53:26 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: OWK

Can you explain why this would be unconstitutional on both a State and Federal level?

I know FEDGOV has no right to do this, but the states? What gives?

15 posted on 07/17/2002 8:10:08 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: It'salmosttolate
How about...

MIPS

Misgovernment Information and Prevention System

16 posted on 07/17/2002 8:42:40 PM PDT by ibme
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To: It'salmosttolate
..officials say the program will rely on worker-informants...


17 posted on 07/18/2002 3:25:59 AM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: APBaer; Byron_the_Aussie
It looks like they ran it up the flagpole to see who would salute, and instead thought they spotted an enraged citizenry with pitchforks and torches.

I sure wish I could agree with your conclusion but from what I've seen/heard the gubment floated this odious trial balloon and not only the sheeple but lots of the folks on FR thought it was it was the prettiest balloon since the 5th Dimension.

Have I missed some threads where this outrage was evident?

18 posted on 07/18/2002 5:15:49 AM PDT by iconoclast
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To: iconoclast
Glad to report the answer is 'yes', amigo. Yet another FR political mood swing is underway. The Freeper remnants who cheer anything this president does are becoming hysterically shrill. Whether Mr Bush is aware of the dismay amongst so many who worked for his election is anyone's guess. Surely he doesn't want to see his term fizzle, in terms of accomplishment, the way his father's did? Fingers crossed.
19 posted on 07/18/2002 3:53:46 PM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Howlin; nopardons; Texasforever; Cachelot
"Attention, clean-up squad : another Homeland Security mess, aisle 3."
20 posted on 07/18/2002 3:57:19 PM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie
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