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Amid scandals, Bush White House takes a risky path, placing loyalty over public duty.
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | 7/17/2002 | Jonathan Turley

Posted on 07/17/2002 12:47:25 PM PDT by dirtboy

The White House is reeling from allegations that both President Bush and Vice President Cheney engaged in business practices that are disturbingly similar to those of executives at Enron and WorldCom. Like administrations before it, this White House now must choose between serving the greater interests of the office of the presidency or the narrower goals of the current officeholder. If last week was any indication, Bush officials have chosen a dangerous path of personal devotion over public duty, a path that has led previous administrations to disaster.

The recent allegations - which may prove overblown under closer scrutiny - center on transactions by Bush and Cheney when they were executives at Harken Energy Corp. and Halliburton Co., respectively. Among the unproven allegations are insider trading, questionable personal loans and fraudulent dealings. The White House staff has put on a full-court press to refute these allegations of private misconduct. In doing so, the administration is drifting into the troubled waters in which the Clinton administration found itself...

Click here for the rest of the article, as this was originally published in the LA Slimes...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: albertogonzales; arifleischer; bush; cheney; halliburton
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To: Senator Pardek
The laws on the books explicitly state (as referenced above) that this is OK!

Slavery was once on the books too but that didn't make it moral or just. I don't see how a democratic referendum can comport with the constitutional guarantee of a republican form of government.

361 posted on 07/17/2002 9:13:07 PM PDT by Demidog
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To: Demidog
Won't work DOG. You are a hypocrite.
362 posted on 07/17/2002 9:16:11 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Won't work DOG.

It works fine. You can't offer any substantive rebuttal so your relagated to the old "uh huh!" routine.

363 posted on 07/17/2002 9:23:52 PM PDT by Demidog
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To: Demidog
Slavery was once on the books too but that didn't make it moral or just. I don't see how a democratic referendum can comport with the constitutional guarantee of a republican form of government.

Ah ... the beauty of "democratization", comrade.

Power to The People's Will!!

364 posted on 07/17/2002 9:27:45 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Demidog
Pardek - You're talking about the morality/ethics of this situation - I'm talking about its legality - two different animals.

Demidog - Slavery was once on the books too but that didn't make it moral or just.

Thank you for proving my point. A constitutional amendment had to be passed to get rid of it - bitching and moaning about its unfairness is most ineffectual.

If you do not like taxpayers' $$$ in Texas building stadia, then start a movement to change the Texas constitution.

Until then, pipe down - you're way over your head when dealing with me on this subject.

365 posted on 07/17/2002 9:43:47 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Senator Pardek
A constitutional amendment had to be passed to get rid of it

No it didn't. The abolition of slavery would have been right there in the bill of rights. It was Taney who decided that "people" didn't really mean people but "citizens."

366 posted on 07/17/2002 9:51:07 PM PDT by Demidog
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To: Demidog
National referenda are one step removed from mob rule.

God, the guy who said this was BRILLIANT!

But, you see, demigod, a STATE referendum is far removed from a NATIONAL referendum.

And, there was no STATE referendum in deciding on the Texas Ranger baseball stadium; it was a CITY referendum.

Thanks for the memories, though.

367 posted on 07/17/2002 9:59:38 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
a STATE referendum is far removed from a NATIONAL referendum.

No it isn't. All referendums are mob rule. Mob theft is no better on a local level than a national level.

368 posted on 07/17/2002 10:09:59 PM PDT by Demidog
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To: Demidog
All referendums are mob rule. Mob theft is no better on a local level than a national level.

So let me get this straight: you'd prefer that a legislature shove a stadium down the throats of a city than allow the city's voters to decide.

That's just nuts, demi. Absolutely nuts.

It's also why local referenda are a good idea.

369 posted on 07/17/2002 10:13:17 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Demidog
Have you ever made a post that is not absolutist and tending towards the extreme? We seem to be opposites in not only ideology, but temperment. Cheers.
370 posted on 07/17/2002 10:13:44 PM PDT by Torie
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To: sinkspur
So let me get this straight: you'd prefer that a legislature shove a stadium down the throats of a city than allow the city's voters to decide.

Yes. Because the voters cannot be held accountable for their poor judgement as can legislators. Furthermore, the state legislature had no play in this. It was the city itself that conspired with Ranger management to get the referendum passed. They can wash their hands of the whole mess using the claim that the "voters have spoken."

It is mob rule that is nuts.

371 posted on 07/17/2002 10:21:50 PM PDT by Demidog
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To: Torie
Have you ever made a post that is not absolutist and tending towards the extreme?

Leading question. "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice" - Barry Goldwater.

372 posted on 07/17/2002 10:22:29 PM PDT by Demidog
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To: Fred Mertz
I love this article in today's washpost. Old Howie Kurtz has really exposed the "pot calling the kettle black" mentality of the mainstream media moguls who love chewing on Bush/Cheney.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A22440-2002Jul17.html

Don't miss this.

373 posted on 07/18/2002 5:59:34 AM PDT by YaYa123
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To: harpo11
I think Arlen Specter is a closet libertarian.
374 posted on 07/18/2002 12:00:41 PM PDT by Temple Owl
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To: Willie Green
Such a hero. Telling tax-payers where they can spend their tax money. As you, no doubt, have been informed by now, state taxes can be used to finance anything the voters of that state desire.

Looks like you lose in your attempt to appear as a defender of the Constitution, when you're really just a punk, leftie jumping on the Democrats red wagon.

I love the anti-stadium outrage. Creative. Ignorant. But creative.

375 posted on 07/18/2002 1:59:43 PM PDT by Deb
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To: Deb
Oh my, the Queen of Perpetual PMS has returned to the thread to brighten up our day!
Did you get a nice beauty rest Ms. Sasquatch?

So you approve of Dubya fleeceing the taxpayers to subsidize his pitiful baseball team while preaching about how overburdened the taxpayers are?
It figgers.

376 posted on 07/18/2002 2:15:51 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green
Huh?

Oh, I see...you're just nuts. Good to know.

Keep up the good fight against that menace of city-subsidized sports stadiums. And let me know about buying any finger-painting you do while in therapy.

377 posted on 07/18/2002 2:23:36 PM PDT by Deb
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To: DoughtyOne
do you think because you can say "bush is a conservative just like me and do the "clinton, clinton, clinton" jagoff trip this board is now passing off as right wing values, that the country isn't getting truely screwed up right now?....to me, who grew up following the waco, mcveigh, etc. real investigations this board developed with years of real research and thought,,,,this so called holy patriotism is a real sick masquerade
378 posted on 07/18/2002 2:29:48 PM PDT by truefrankness
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To: dirtboy
In all fairness to Turley, he was relentlessly critical of the Face Biting Rapist when the latter was playing Hide the Cigar and sending his lackeys out to lie for him.

The difference now is, Turley (a minor media pundit during the ThongGate days) will suddenly be elevated to Major Pundit because he's criticizing President Bush.

379 posted on 07/18/2002 2:33:42 PM PDT by RooRoobird14
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To: Deb
Huh?
Oh, I see...you're just nuts. Good to know.

Nuts because I don't mindlessly chant the Party mantra despite what experience tells me?

Keep up the good fight against that menace of city-subsidized sports stadiums.

Well thanks! It is sometimes difficult to continue the battle against such grossly flagrant misuse of public funds when most Americans have apparently been numbed into apathetic acceptance. But it is worthwhile considering the $$$billions that are wasted in this fashion, and other, more important priorities exist.

And let me know about buying any finger-painting you do while in therapy.

I'm not in need of therapy as much as those willing to squander their tax dollars on professional sports stadia.

380 posted on 07/18/2002 2:40:18 PM PDT by Willie Green
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