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Operation TIPS
Federal Government ^

Posted on 07/17/2002 9:09:29 AM PDT by NoLongerLurker

Operation TIPS, administered by the U.S. Department of Justice and developed in partnership with several other federal agencies, is one of the five component programs of the Citizen Corps. Operation TIPS will be a national system for reporting suspicious, and potentially terrorist-related activity. The program will involve the millions of American workers who, in the daily course of their work, are in a unique position to see potentially unusual or suspicious activity in public places.

The Department of Justice is discussing participation with several industry groups whose workers are ideally suited to help in the anti-terrorism effort because their routines allow them to recognize unusual events and have expressed a desire for a mechanism to report these events to authorities.

These workers will use their common sense and knowledge of their work environment to identify suspicious or unusual activity. This program offers a way for these workers to report what they see in public areas and along transportation routes.

All it will take to volunteer is a telephone or access to the Internet as tips can be reported on the toll-free hotline or online. Information received will be entered into the national database and referred electronically to a point of contact in each state as appropriate. This is not a national 911 center, and callers are expected to dial 911 for emergency local response.

Industries that are interested in participating in this program will be given printed guidance material, flyers and brochures, about the program and how to contact the Operation TIPS reporting center. This information can be distributed to workers or posted in common work areas. Operation TIPS is scheduled to be launched in late summer or early fall 2002. The goal of the program is to establish a reliable and comprehensive national system for reporting suspicious, and potentially terrorist-related, activity. By establishing one central reporting center, information from several different industries can be maintained in a single database. Operation TIPS will be phased in across the country to enable the system to build its capacity to receive an increasing volume of tips.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: tips
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To: weikel
The legal profession is as bad as it is precisely because it doesn't have principled people like you.
61 posted on 07/17/2002 10:43:25 AM PDT by Consort
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To: down the rabbit hole
Well, don't forget, Dubya has said "There should be limits to Free Speech" and "This would be a whole lot easier if this was a Dictatorship, if course with me as the Dictator".

It's not like these guys are being covert about their intentions, regardless of what the Bush Bots say to the contrairy.

62 posted on 07/17/2002 10:48:45 AM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: weikel
Sorry, I just didn't understand whether you were saying the TIPS program was better or worse than the E Germany model?
63 posted on 07/17/2002 10:49:32 AM PDT by nanny
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To: NoLongerLurker
You are too late. It starts next month in ten cities.

And.......if principled, freedom and liberty loving people are not part of it, then we are cutting our own throats. They will have all the clout and we will be left to whine and wallow.

64 posted on 07/17/2002 10:53:57 AM PDT by Consort
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To: Jimer
No its by nature bad( Im also not sure I agree with the assesment of people either I rarely lie, I hate deception, and I don't think I'd be good at it that can't make for a good lawyer). I wouldn't rate myself as a goody goody either but there are some lines I won't cross and ratting on friends and family is one of them.
65 posted on 07/17/2002 10:54:51 AM PDT by weikel
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To: Jimer
I've been a registered Republican all of my adult life (I'm in my 60s). I thought that the philosophy of the Republicans was small government and protect the Consitution. But I guess I'm in the minority. Out of touch.

You and our current Republican administration don't seem to give a rat's a$$ about the Constitution and Bill of Rights, particularly the protection against unreasonable search. Sending in an agent in the form of a furnace repair man who has the power to look around and report any activities that HE thinks are suspicious, which then goes into a record you can never access is, in my opinion, a violation of the Fourth Amendment.

66 posted on 07/17/2002 10:57:00 AM PDT by NoLongerLurker
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To: weikel
I wouldn't rate myself as a goody goody either but there are some lines I won't cross and ratting on friends and family is one of them.

I agree. Decent people, in and out of TIPS, would not do those things, and decent people in the TIPS program would have something to say about those who would do such things. It would be a positive influence for a change.

67 posted on 07/17/2002 11:00:28 AM PDT by Consort
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To: Owl_Eagle
F-ck the "garbled database" business.

The whole idea of enocuraging Americans to inform on their neighbors is thoroughly disgusting.

68 posted on 07/17/2002 11:03:58 AM PDT by NoLongerLurker
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To: Jimer
If freedom and liberty loving people join TIPS to rat on people they are no longer freedom and liberty loving people.

What would be the purpose of joining TIPS if not to rat on people? What other positions are there?

This is nothing more than a giant, federally run, nation wide organization for the purpose of rating on each other for the purpose of empowering the federal government and gaining more and more information on the 'subjects'.

69 posted on 07/17/2002 11:05:17 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: Jimer
And just how do you insure that everyone in TIPS is "decent".
70 posted on 07/17/2002 11:05:47 AM PDT by NoLongerLurker
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To: NoLongerLurker
And just how do you insure that everyone in TIPS is "decent".

Hmmmmmmmm.........I got it! Start a pre-TIPS program to screen the TIPS informers.

71 posted on 07/17/2002 11:07:22 AM PDT by gdani
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To: NoLongerLurker
The Leftist Liberal Socialists don't want you to get involved and they deeply appreciate your cooperation. Terry McAuliffe must be enjoying this Thread.
72 posted on 07/17/2002 11:10:16 AM PDT by Consort
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To: Jimer
What are the proposed penalties for providing false information? Are there any?

What recourse against the rat does one have for providing false info? Against the government for acting upon false info? Is there any?

I suspect the answer is a big fat NO on all counts.

And what about the violation of the 4th amendment issue that this surely raises? Being a part of the TIPS program clearly makes them under the direction of and an agent of the government, which requires them to obtain a warrant to enter your home.

This is a road that should not be traveled down. And no person who supports the TIPS program is a lover of liberty and freedom. Including President Bush.

73 posted on 07/17/2002 11:11:30 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: Phantom Lord
If freedom and liberty loving people join TIPS to rat on people they are no longer freedom and liberty loving people.

That's exactly what they won't do. If only the ratters get involved, it will take on a life of its own and become the type of organization we don't want it to become.

74 posted on 07/17/2002 11:16:02 AM PDT by Consort
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To: NoLongerLurker
F-ck the "garbled database" business.

Sorry, seems I mistook you for someone more intelligent than you are.

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

75 posted on 07/17/2002 11:17:20 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel
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To: Jimer
Well, if one joins TIPS and doesnt rat on people, are they doing what they signed up for?

Other than the position of RAT, what positions are available?

76 posted on 07/17/2002 11:18:10 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: Jimer
TIPS is a Federal Government plan for recruiting millions of Americans to spy and inform on their friends and neighbors.

We will have more informants than Germany and their infamous Stasi secret police. One in every 24 Americans will be a snitch.

It will be totally disgusting.

77 posted on 07/17/2002 11:19:14 AM PDT by NoLongerLurker
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To: Owl_Eagle
I mistook you for someone more intelligent

Here is the "intelligent" version:

If the "garbled database" will prevent TIPS from being useful, why bother? If it won't prevent information on you from being retrieved, it's a menace.

In any case, it's disgusting to encourage Americans to become informants on each other. It's no different than what took place under the Nazis or the Communists.

78 posted on 07/17/2002 11:32:29 AM PDT by NoLongerLurker
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