Posted on 07/17/2002 1:58:36 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
I think it's "Kallstrom." But that's not the important part:
1. Limbaugh is easily convinced by the establishment line.
2. Kallstrom got a TV series out of the deal, with access to FBI Files. (In fact, that's the name of the series.) What might he have done to earn such a reward?
You check the followup to that post. Within minutes I apologized for the typo of 8:12 and corrected to 8:31:12 without any prompting from strainers of fly dung out of black pepper.
Wow! You get my nomination as the next Jack Clancy!
Actually the story doesn't quote any conversation between Captain Bauer and Major Meyer. Captain Bauer, mentions that it "was the wrong color for flares." Other witnesses speak of a 'flare-like object'. So my example of what might have been said is as valid as your claim of "Is that Pyro ?".
It was NOT night.
Night, twilight, none of descriptions come close to resembling a Navy SAM. The most common description is 'flare like object' or 'like a fireworks'. Major Meyer is sure it's a missile, but if it was as large as a Standard with the massive flame and smoke trail a Standard has, then one would think that he or someone else might have noticed that and included that kind of information in their descriptions.
I have no idea what the people saw. Missile, flare, fireworks, meteorite, I don't know. I wasn't there. I am merely pointing out that, day or night, none of these descriptions come close to what a Navy SAM looks like.
Not so, me foyn grasshoppa...It's not my claim...It's a matter of public record.
From the Grenada Forum:
[Meyer] At that moment my co-pilot was the first to speak and he said - he's an experienced officer - coast guard helicopter pilot - former army helicopter pilot - now flies with the US Customs Office and is a weekend warrior with the Air Guard as I was - he said: "Is that pyro?".
To read the entire Grenada Forum presentation of Major Fritz Meyer
I know you've seen this before, but just to refresh your memory: From the Grenada Forum, ANG Pavehawk helicopter pilot Fred "Fritz" Meyer says...
"When you fly a helicopter at 120 knots over North Vietnam in the iron triangle - in the most heavily defended airspace in the history of warfare - you see a lot of missiles - you see a lot of flak - and I did - I saw a bunch of it - I know what it looks like. My purpose in being here tonight is to tell you that what I saw explode in the sky on July 17, 1996 was military ordnance...We're here is to say it's no accident - somebody shot this aircraft down"
Mayer didn't say it was a missile. He said he saw military ordnance
But it wasn't a Standard.
You can state that in your experience, it wasn't any Standard you're familiar with, or in your opinion it wasn't a Standard: You'd be perfectly within your perogatives to do so...But can you state catagorically that it was not a Block that you may be unaware of...IMHO, I don't think you can.
Heck! It doesn't sound like a Standard to me, either, but I wasn't there, as you were not. Meyer said it was "military ordnance"...Fine!
Clinton was a no show.
I sure loved O'Connor, he could smell a rat when he saw one.
Errmm...I don't believe I said it "wasn't a missile". What I said was,[Post 131] "It doesn't sound like a Standard to me, either"...Meyer had the same problem in being mis-quoted initially by the press.
In the interest of accuracy:
You did NOT say: "it didn't look like a missile to me." You said< [Post 130]..."it wasn't a Standard."
I did NOT say "it wasn't a 'missile'. I said, [Post 131/134] "It doesn't sound like a Standard to me, either."
I did NOT say it was military ordnance. Fritz Meyer did.
I DID say:[Post 134] I don't believe I said it "wasn't a missile". What I said was,[Post 131] "It doesn't sound like a Standard to me, either"
Do not attempt to put words in my mouth...I was dealing with obfuscation before you opened your first "dittybag."
"missile"
"ordnance"
"Standard"
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