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To: rdb3
The GOP isn't good enough for you. So, what are you going to do besides gripe? What's your alternative?

So I guess the GOP IS good enough for you. The former leader of the Republican party in my state is a criminal who is being asked to resign because of all his scandals. (They gave him a pass on the largest tax increase in state history and continued lying to the public) The new leader of the GOP in my state is pro-choice. Cool huh?

Gripe? LOL, any time someone tries to hold your swine to their rhetoric it's called griping or whining by the lemmings and bootlickers of anyone with an "R" behind their name.

I'm not saying you are one of them, only that you risk sounding like them.

The alternative is to work to change the hearts and minds of the people who vote for and nominate these socialist slugs.

Your challenge about a VIABLE third party is a non starter designed to eliminate all choices except Republicrats. Nice try.

Question;
If I said I was committed to your party but the first step in saving it was to remove all those who are currently in power there, would you endorse that? No, you would talk about "big tents" and "Reagan's law" and control of the senate and other such nonsense.

Do what you will, I'll do what I will, but remember, if you continue to let them take you for granted because "they ain't Clinton", you will get "Democrat lite" forever. Because they aren't interested in doing what is right, they are interested in being in power.

"If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always gotten."

344 posted on 07/16/2002 8:13:33 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: ThomasJefferson
So I guess the GOP IS good enough for you.

As a VIABLE avenue (read: path), yes it is.

The former leader of the Republican party in my state is a criminal who is being asked to resign because of all his scandals. (They gave him a pass on the largest tax increase in state history and continued lying to the public)

Since when did GOP equate with being holy? How about Democrat? Is that holy? Libertarian? Green? The point is that men are men, no matter what label they may be under.

The new leader of the GOP in my state is pro-choice. Cool huh?

Not to me, but it may be to you since you are a libertarian. When it comes down to the pro-life/pro-abort argument, you have your own work to do amongst your political kinsmen.

Gripe? LOL, any time someone tries to hold your swine to their rhetoric it's called griping or whining by the lemmings and bootlickers of anyone with an "R" behind their name.

This is a matter of perspective. I've accepted the fact that no one gets all that he or she wants in this life. Hell, Bill "Blue Screen" Gates can't with all his chedda. I have also come to grips with the fact that this nation didn't slide leftward overnight. It won't slide rightward overnight, either. Undoing 70+ years of leftward sliding is going to take some time.

The alternative is to work to change the hearts and minds of the people who vote for and nominate these socialist slugs.

Now we've come to a point of agreement! Although we are still ions apart in methodology. To me, we must uproot the RATS FIRST. My AR-15 is focussed squarely on them because they are the most dangerous party in this nation. The GOP just lacks political skills, but those skills can be attained.

Your challenge about a VIABLE third party is a non starter designed to eliminate all choices except Republicrats. Nice try.

How so? You still haven't named one. So the question still stands: What is a VIABLE alternative? That question is extremely important and I for one expect an answer to it. Libertarians? Ha! Greens? Puh-leeze. Constitution? Nope. Reform? Riiiight... So tell me, what other choices are there that has a chance to win?

If I said I was committed to your party but the first step in saving it was to remove all those who are currently in power there, would you endorse that? No, you would talk about "big tents" and "Reagan's law" and control of the senate and other such nonsense.

Oh, so asking AND answering for me, huh? I'm not worried about a "party." I'm registered as an Independent. So party labels mean little. However, since I am definitely a post-conservative, the GOP gets my nod since it is the closest VIABLE choice I have. Can't place a bet on the Browns to win the Super Bowl if they aren't playing in it, right?

Do what you will, I'll do what I will...

Kewl! Love, peace, and Afro-Sheen, baby! It's all good like a two-piece, biscuit, and a pepper, ya heard?

...but remember, if you continue to let them take you for granted because "they ain't Clinton", you will get "Democrat lite" forever.

They can't take me for granted, my man. That's not possible. The reasons why they can't take me for granted are 1.) I don't belong to that party, and 2.) My vote will change if, and only if, there is truly a viable alternative.

"If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always gotten."

True dat. And, doing the exact same thing multiple times while expecting a different result is insanity. I'm so glad you lead me here. It's a perfect segue into what I have to say next on this thread. I'm just not finished with it yet.

So, stay tuned! Same Bat-time! Same Bat-channel!

353 posted on 07/16/2002 8:45:23 AM PDT by rdb3
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