[BurFred]

I ask you again, how much are your Libertarian congressmen and senators getting done for you in Washington? How many Libertarian politicians are elected in your state and local government? I would rather have elected officials that I can call on for change than unelected people I can sit and gripe with. If I am on a sinking ship I want to try and patch the holes rather than jumping overboard and not being able to get anything done.

[gcruse]

My beliefs are libertarian. The fact I voted for Bush is my problem to deal with. If you don't believe in voting your conscience, that's your problem.

[zoyd]

If I am on a sinking ship I want to try and patch the holes rather than jumping overboard and not being able to get anything done.

At the rate Republicans are going, those holes keep appearing, and faster than you can patch them. The ship is sinking... at some point, you're better off in the water than going down with the ship. I wish, in your analogy, that there were enough people trying to patch the holes to make the effort worthwhile, but this baby is taking on water...