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US planning to recruit one in 24 Americans as citizen spies
smh ^ | 7/15/2002 | Ritt Goldstein

Posted on 07/14/2002 1:17:47 PM PDT by TLBSHOW

US planning to recruit one in 24 Americans as citizen spies

The Bush Administration aims to recruit millions of United States citizens as domestic informants in a program likely to alarm civil liberties groups.

The Terrorism Information and Prevention System, or TIPS, means the US will have a higher percentage of citizen informants than the former East Germany through the infamous Stasi secret police. The program would use a minimum of 4 per cent of Americans to report "suspicious activity".

Civil liberties groups have already warned that, with the passage earlier this year of the Patriot Act, there is potential for abusive, large-scale investigations of US citizens.

As with the Patriot Act, TIPS is being pursued as part of the so-called war against terrorism. It is a Department of Justice project.

Highlighting the scope of the surveillance network, TIPS volunteers are being recruited primarily from among those whose work provides access to homes, businesses or transport systems. Letter carriers, utility employees, truck drivers and train conductors are among those named as targeted recruits.

A pilot program, described on the government Web site www.citizencorps.gov, is scheduled to start next month in 10 cities, with 1 million informants participating in the first stage. Assuming the program is initiated in the 10 largest US cities, that will be 1 million informants for a total population of almost 24 million, or one in 24 people.

Historically, informant systems have been the tools of non-democratic states. According to a 1992 report by Harvard University's Project on Justice, the accuracy of informant reports is problematic, with some informants having embellished the truth, and others suspected of having fabricated their reports.

Present Justice Department procedures mean that informant reports will enter databases for future reference and/or action. The information will then be broadly available within the department, related agencies and local police forces. The targeted individual will remain unaware of the existence of the report and of its contents.

The Patriot Act already provides for a person's home to be searched without that person being informed that a search was ever performed, or of any surveillance devices that were implanted.

At state and local levels the TIPS program will be co-ordinated by the Federal Emergency Management Agency, which

was given sweeping new powers, including internment, as part of the Reagan Administration's national security initiatives. Many key figures of the Reagan era are part of the Bush Administration.

The creation of a US "shadow government", operating in secret, was another Reagan national security initiative.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: spies; tips
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Comment #141 Removed by Moderator

To: DAnconia55
The correct terminology, from here on out, will be "Bush-brownshirts".

You're first, unpatriotic thought criminal.

Wait a minute. Are you saying that Brown Shirts were bad guys?

142 posted on 07/14/2002 6:51:21 PM PDT by A. Pole
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To: illuminati
"lame to reply to my own post"

what's lame is using an article written by Tritt "the mind control satellites are spraying pepper spray on me" Goldstein to attack Jonah Goldberg.

It really is lame as you say. Shows the stature of his critics.

144 posted on 07/14/2002 7:06:59 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: Lazamataz
The liberal will love this

next it will be guns

145 posted on 07/14/2002 7:13:28 PM PDT by PatriotReporter
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To: TLBSHOW
The scariest part of this is that if a president like Hillary is elected, she would expand this plan to include EVERYTHING from reporting people for illegal fireworks to owning weapons that MIGHT be assult weapons to God only knows what else. I dont like it.
146 posted on 07/14/2002 7:25:27 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: ellery
the thought of this being at his disposal

BJC might be a despicable scoundrel, but I wouldn't worry somebody like him would get tools like this. I would worry about HRC and her crowd.

147 posted on 07/14/2002 7:26:46 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: ellery
Bingo! to your #50
148 posted on 07/14/2002 7:28:27 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: Cacique
ping! :)
149 posted on 07/14/2002 7:32:59 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: APBaer

150 posted on 07/14/2002 7:59:17 PM PDT by AgentEcho
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To: rdavis84; thinden; mancini; 2sheep
Maybe I can earn one of those colorful armbands.
151 posted on 07/14/2002 8:24:49 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Conservative_Dr.Pepper_Drinker
"I thought the Stasi were closer to 1 informant in 5."
"...or so the Germans would have us believe."
153 posted on 07/14/2002 8:41:26 PM PDT by APBaer
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To: TLBSHOW
Notice the anti-Bush slant in this Australian article...basically calling Bush Hitler.

As for civilians keeping an eye on things (I refuse to call them spies), it is a great idea. Good for the govt.
154 posted on 07/14/2002 8:53:57 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: rwfromkansas
An informer system is unnecassary for citizens to give tips on terrorist it is neccasary for a gestapo/cheka/stasi type system.
155 posted on 07/14/2002 8:57:04 PM PDT by weikel
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To: Centurion2000
I sincerly hope so this is the blueprint for a gestapo system.
156 posted on 07/14/2002 8:57:58 PM PDT by weikel
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To: cva66snipe; Askel5; The_Eaglet; ppaul; ex-snook; kidd; Snuffington; Inspector Harry Callahan; ...
No official confirmation of this story yet, but it seems like the Clinton years all over again--bizarre stories and rumors can't be immediately discounted. Even if this turns out to be false, it certainly seems plausible given the administration's track record since 9/11.
157 posted on 07/14/2002 9:01:58 PM PDT by sheltonmac
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To: Conservative_Dr.Pepper_Drinker
American Stasi - or - Freepers with a Badge

from the du...matching thread title to this one!

hummmmmm dr pepper hummmmmmmmmm

dr pepper said

I thought the Stasi were closer to 1 informant in 5.




158 posted on 07/14/2002 9:06:55 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: sheltonmac
Mght as well lose that 10 pounds, cut my hair and put on my high heels.... cause there's a definite screwing in the future.
159 posted on 07/14/2002 9:07:31 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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160 posted on 07/14/2002 9:26:23 PM PDT by 2sheep
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