States Brace for Cigarette Backlash/

Yahoo News ^ | 13 July 2002 | DAVID CRARY

[Gabz]

In other words - the other side of the Bay!!!

[Smokin' Joe]

Next step is growing your own.

Bed the plants indoors for 4 to 6 weeks, until after the last frost. Transplant where they will get plenty of sun, 4 to 6 feet apart. Top the flowers out (cut the stalk off) after they bloom. Wait two to three weeks. Either cut the plant or pick off the leaves. Cure by hanging, stem up, to dry in a humidity controlled environment (70%). Cut and blend to taste. Highest tar and nicotine in the leaves near the top, lowest in the ground leaves.

Impressive, beautiful plant.

[Let's Roll]

Heaven forbid any of these states would lower spending!!!

[Dianna]

Are you near Kentucky? Instead of stopping just over the bridge and getting caught, drive a little further to the RT 16 exit off I-75. Turn right, and in the shopping center Remke has a wine/tobacco shop with pretty good prices.

There is a discount store right over the bridge, but I'm betting that's where the cops will be.

[Jonathon Spectre]

Welcome to the War on (Some) Drugs v2.0.

[StockAyatollah]

I love all the tax rebelliousness on this thread. This anti-smoking crusade the feds and states have gone on is a microcosm of the larger mess: out-of-control government attacking individual liberty and a majority population trying to transfer wealth from a minority. As the econmy continues to collapse, I expect alcohol and tobacco taxes to continue increasing. Ultimately I think this is a good thing. We might finally get a long overdue revolution.

[Doctor Stochastic]

It's amusing to see the smokers turning to bootleg tobacco. Sort of like how the druggies use bootleg drugs and the drunks ^H^H^H^H^H^H ordinary people used bootleg alcohol during prohibition.

The War On Tobacco will be as interesting as the War On Drugs.

[brat]

"They are not conservatives if they buy into these obscene tax increases and interference with someone's life."

I beg to differ. It was Ronnie and NANCY Reagan who unleashed this antismoking hatred on us. Don't forget that. It was so successful for state coffers, that the Dims took up the cause in order to get more money to spend for their programs.

[Wingy]

It was Ronnie and NANCY Reagan who unleashed this antismoking hatred on us.

Hey guy, check your recent history. It was Ted Kennedy that raised the tax on a pack of cigs. He said the increase was only temporary, and that was written into the bill,(later repealed) and it was in one of those three foot tall stacks that Reagan had to sign. The Dims had a really neat strategy for a while of delaying all the spending bills until the last minute then sending the whole mess down to RR for his signiture just before the whole govt ground to a halt. Something the Washington Compost could blame on their favorite President. Needless to say, it worked.

[arm958]

Seems the Greeks are going to start putting their citizens in jail for 3 months over their smoking. I didn't get the full story.

You must not have received the full story. Greeks love cigarettes and they are cheap here (around $2.20 a pack). You can't even find a restaurant that has a no smoking section. Although large parts of the new Athens airport are marked "no smoking", those signs are ignored. Compared the the U.S., Greece is a smoker's paradise.

[WaterDragon]

One of the nice things the Democrats do to us is turn many into criminals (smuggling). The Democrats don't mind because the more disordered and unlawful a culture becomes, the easier to completely take it over.

[pariah]

Thanks for the link to YesSmoke, Hammer. I will definitely give them a try, though they don't carry my preferred brand. Meanwhile, I have been saving money by switching to Double Diamonds, made in India. A carton costs $16.50 here in Oregon, and they are of pretty good quality. But I'd rather smoke an American made name brand.

[Hacksaw]

Move to Ohio. A few muddy lakes...but the taxes aren't near as bad...although it's starting...sigh...time to find a place to become our own independent place...!!!!!

Yeah - I lived in Ohio for 5 years - good roads, CHEAP public universities, and low taxes. I now live in PA - horrible roads, expensive public schools, and high taxes. But for some reason I like it here (must be the terrain).

[Hacksaw]

At the University of Pittsburgh, I've seen more than one student using rollers to make their own smokes - they say it saves a good bit of money. PA just increased the cig taxes. I am a Skoal man myself (I grew up in WV so cut me a break) but I am not sure if it is going to hit chew as well. I would like to quit entirely at some point (or at least quit taking college classes at 35).

[Hacksaw]

Impressive, beautiful plant.

Hey out of curiosity (from a killer thumb) please don't tell me growing tabacco is illegal.

[Hacksaw]

Top the flowers out (cut the stalk off) after they bloom.

They should not be pollinated?

[Eaker]

Please add me to your ping list too.

Eaker

[poet]

I believe Ronnie & nancy were against drugs. I don't rememember them engaging in a no-smoking campaign.
It has always been the "do gooders" who try to change us.

For instance, the environmental wackos and the animal rights wackos and of course, thr anti-amoking wackos in addition to the pro-abortion wackos. Let's not forget the politically correct wackos. These people, en toto, have a totalitarian mindset, therefore, they are dangerous to all freedom loving people.

P.S. If a cigarette tax was put in effect during Reagan's terms, just remember, he had a demoRATically controlled congress along with some RINOS who went along.

[poet]

"One of the nice things the Democrats do to us is turn many into criminals (smuggling). The Democrats don't mind because the more disordered and unlawful a culture becomes, the easier to completely take it over."

Not only the democrats, the republicrats are just as guilty.
A republicrat controlled house voted overwhwlmingly for the Gestapo Law, oops, excuse me, the p.a.t.r.i.o.t. act which will make criminals of of dissenters like me in the future, however, at my age it probably won't affect me as it will the younger people.

If you haven't read it, I urge you to do so, especially Section 802 which goes on forever while the rest of the act has a four year "sunset" provision.

Under Section 802, anyone who disrupts or criticizes the gov't can be declared a terrorist. Don't believe me? Read it and judge for yourself. If you can prove that I'm wrong, I will change my mind.

[WaterDragon]

Let me know, would you, if you notice any lessening of criticism of the government as a result of the passage of the Patriot Act?