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Confederate flag waves on license plates
The Virginian Pilot ^ | 13 July 2002 | PHYLLIS SPEIDELL

Posted on 07/13/2002 1:42:35 PM PDT by stainlessbanner

SUFFOLK -- Vehicle by vehicle, the Confederate battle flag is joining the ranks of Harley Davidson wings and Lions Club shields on Virginia license plates, sparking little public debate. After a three-year court battle, some members of the Sons of Confederate Veterans are proudly displaying plates with a small Confederate flag logo on a shadowy background of three Confederate horsemen.

Similar license plates bearing the Confederate flag have already been available in other states, including Maryland and North Carolina.

In Virginia, a spokesman for the Department of Motor Vehicles said about 550 people have added $10 to their vehicle registration fee to own the special plate. Only certified SCV members qualify, and applicants must show proof of membership.

So far, reaction to the plate has been either positive or neutral, said Bill Richardson, commander of the SCV Tom Smith Camp in Suffolk. A few days after attaching one to his vehicle, Richardson sat at an intersection in Norfolk, looking in his rearview mirror.

``This guy behind me bails out of his truck and comes running up and taps on my window,'' he said, then admitted he was relieved to learn the stranger was an SCV member from North Carolina.

``He was just happy to see my plate, the first Virginia SCV plate he had seen,'' Richardson said.

Not everyone feels the same way.

``I have yet to see one, but I will let my eyes tell me how I feel -- if I can live peacefully with them,'' said T.C. Williams of Suffolk. The 82-year-old is president of the Rosemont-Lloyd Place Civic League and a member of the NAACP.

``The controversy has come and gone,'' said Pam Goheen, deputy director of public relations for the Department of Motor Vehicles. ``Now we are merely administering the code of Virginia, and, so far, we have had no complaints.''

While some of Virginia's 180 specialty plates are revenue-sharing -- with some of the proceeds benefiting the sponsoring group -- the SCV receives no revenue from its plates.

Brad Bowling, commander of the Virginia Division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, said the special tags are an effective recruiting tool. He's received 15 to 20 calls a day about them and SCV membership.

``As people see how benign the plates are, we are getting more calls,'' he said.

Currently, Virginia's SCV membership stands at about 3,200; international membership is about 30,000.

The Sons of Confederate Veterans, a heritage group founded in 1896 to honor Confederate soldiers, sailors and history, first sought General Assembly approval for the plate in 1999. Opponents argued that the Ku Klux Klan and similar white supremacy groups had used the Confederate battle flag as a symbol of hate and that the flag was racially divisive.

In April, with the support of the Rutherford Institute, an international civil liberties group based in Charlottesville, the Sons of Confederate Veterans won a federal appeals court decision overruling an earlier court decision that banned the flag from the license plates. A U.S. District judge said the refusal to issue the plate violated the SCV's right to free speech.

``It is appropriate to honor the desire of those who want a license plate honoring the Confederacy because it is more divisive to deny it,'' said Diane Snowa of Suffolk, pastor of the Portsmouth Congregational Christian United Church of Christ, a multiracial congregation.

``The bottom line is education and rational responses to an emotional time in our history that continues to ignite.''

Reach Phyllis Speidell at 483-9161 or pspeidel@pilotonline.com


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: confederateflag; dixielist; licenseplate; scv; viriginia
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1 posted on 07/13/2002 1:42:35 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: shuckmaster; 4ConservativeJustices; one2many; billbears; Constitution Day; Alas Babylon!; ...

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2 posted on 07/13/2002 1:43:54 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner

This flag is the front tag on my jeep.

3 posted on 07/13/2002 1:48:18 PM PDT by Dawgsquat
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To: stainlessbanner
Confederate flag waves on license plates

Good.

4 posted on 07/13/2002 1:48:59 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: Dawgsquat
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

free the SOUTH,sw

5 posted on 07/13/2002 1:55:30 PM PDT by stand watie
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To: Dawgsquat
A fellow Jeep owner? Cool - my rig has the CBF on it, too....Front and Rear! Proudly displayed.

I have a 90 YJ, but I'm looking for a good condition CJ-7

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6 posted on 07/13/2002 2:40:01 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
Way cool. Got a '94 Grand Cherokee. Can't beat it.
7 posted on 07/13/2002 2:42:27 PM PDT by Dawgsquat
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To: stainlessbanner
...the Ku Klux Klan and similar white supremacy groups had used the Confederate battle flag as a symbol of hate and that the flag was racially divisive.

They also used the christian cross as a symbol. Should that be banned as well?

(My ancestors fought in the 17th Virginia Cavalry.)

8 posted on 07/13/2002 3:13:59 PM PDT by snopercod
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To: stainlessbanner; LibKill; southernpatriot_usa; SC Swamp Fox; Constitution Day; TomServo; ...
Aw, Shucks!
9 posted on 07/13/2002 3:43:00 PM PDT by shuckmaster
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To: snopercod
13th Mississippi Infantry (Barksdale's Mississippians)
10 posted on 07/13/2002 3:44:58 PM PDT by Dawgsquat
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To: stainlessbanner
Ok, what about us DCV members? ;-)
11 posted on 07/13/2002 3:54:26 PM PDT by RikaStrom
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To: Huitzilopochitl
Why would someone be proud to do this anyway?

You will never understand.

13 posted on 07/13/2002 4:30:09 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: snopercod
(My ancestors fought in the 17th Virginia Cavalry.)

Co. B, 10th Virginia Cavalry here, sir. That was the unit of one of my great-great Granpas, Pvt. John Wesley Wagner. He's buried in Unity Cemetery in Fort Mill, South Carolina.

14 posted on 07/13/2002 4:33:02 PM PDT by Twodees
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To: RikaStrom
The organization for you ladies is the UDC, United Daughters of the Confederacy. That organization predates ours and did the yeoman's work of seeing to it that the graves were tended and marked and that the veterans were honored and recognized.

They are a fine bunch of ladies.
16 posted on 07/13/2002 4:38:31 PM PDT by Twodees
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To: snopercod
9th Ga Inf Regt, 50th Ga Inf Regt and 7th Ga Cav Regt
17 posted on 07/13/2002 9:03:22 PM PDT by Rebelo3
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To: stainlessbanner
``I have yet to see one, but I will let my eyes tell me how I feel -- if I can live peacefully with them,'' said T.C. Williams of Suffolk.

The renown tolerance of the left raises its ugly head again.

18 posted on 07/14/2002 6:05:57 AM PDT by aomagrat
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To: snopercod
My GGGrandfather, John G. Taylor, Co. B, 17th South Carolina Infantry.
19 posted on 07/14/2002 6:06:51 AM PDT by aomagrat
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To: Twodees
I know Twodees, I was trying to be marginally funny. (sometimes, I fail horribly) :-)

I am already a member, thanks to the hardwork my mother and great-uncle did in researching. It does help to have a relative who's into geneology.

20 posted on 07/14/2002 7:20:22 AM PDT by RikaStrom
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