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Gaddafi labels al-Qaeda 'crazy and mad'
IOL South Africa ^ | July 12, 2002

Posted on 07/11/2002 6:47:02 PM PDT by Shermy

London - Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, whose country is on a US list of states sponsoring terrorism, said members of Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda guerrilla network were terrorists, crazy and mad.

In comments broadcast on Thursday, he said in an interview with CNN that Libya would arrest and put on trial any al-Qaeda member found in the country.

"We are not in need of bin Laden, we don't need his money and we don't need his protection and we don't want to use him or be used by him. These terrorist groups which we term heretics are non-Muslims.

"They are terrorist people, crazy and mad...," he added.

'We even suffered from them'

"We even suffered from them. A number of elements from Afghanistan were successful to infiltrate and come back and cause quite a lot of trouble to us and some of them got killed in action," he added. He did not elaborate.

"I would like to reassure the Americans and non-Americans that Libya plays a very important role in combating and fighting terrorism," he added.

The United States bombed Tripoli and Benghazi in 1986 in retaliation for what it said was Libya's responsibility for a disco attack in Germany that killed two American soldiers.

Gaddafi, who once saw himself as the chief Arab scourge of the United States, Europe and Israel, has striven in recent years to win international respectability and attract badly needed foreign investment in Libya's oil-based economy.

Diplomats in Tripoli say he has shut training camps in Libya for guerrillas from around the world, from Sierra Leone to the Philippines, bulldozing most of them.

'Libya is innocent' The Libyan leader quickly offered condolences for the September 11 attacks on the United States, blamed on al-Qaeda.

He declared that America had the right to retaliate and submitted information on Libyans thought to have links with al-Qaeda. But his support for the campaign against global terrorism has yet to convince the United States to thaw relations.

Gaddafi told CNN a series of trilateral meetings between US, British and Libyan officials to discuss Libya's response to UN resolutions and accept liability for the 1988 Lockerbie airliner bombing "have gone a long way", but did not elaborate.

The mid-air bombing of a Pan Am airliner over the Scottish town of Lockerbie killed 270 people. The trilateral meetings began in London last October, with the fourth round taking place in June.

"Libya is innocent," Gaddafi told CNN when asked about Lockerbie. He said Libya wanted "excellent and good relations with America".

In 2001, a Scottish court sitting in the Netherlands found Libyan Abdel Basset al-Megrahi Megrahi guilty of the bombing, sentenced him to life in jail and said it accepted evidence he was a member of Libya's Jamahariya Security Organisation. Megrahi appealed against the verdict, but Scottish appeal judges in the Netherlands in March upheld his conviction. Libya has always denied any role in the bombing.

Asked what would Libya's reaction be if the United States attacked Iraq, Gaddafi said: "If such a thing takes place, people will say bin Laden was right because America is practising terrorism".


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: libya; terrorism
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1 posted on 07/11/2002 6:47:02 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy
Kind of says something when one of the world's leading lunatics calls your organization "crazy and mad."
2 posted on 07/11/2002 6:48:00 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob
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To: Tennessee_Bob; Shermy
Kind of says something when one of the world's leading lunatics calls your organization "crazy and mad."

Translation Momar says "Don't come after us....please"

3 posted on 07/11/2002 6:49:00 PM PDT by NeoCaveman
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To: Shermy
somebody must have just received an anonymous map of proposed USAF targets
4 posted on 07/11/2002 6:49:00 PM PDT by fnord
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To: Shermy; Thinkin' Gal; aculeus; Orual; general_re; Tennessee_Bob

5 posted on 07/11/2002 6:51:50 PM PDT by dighton
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To: Shermy
Which is the "POT" and which is the "KETTLE"?
6 posted on 07/11/2002 6:51:56 PM PDT by Vidalia
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To: Shermy
"They are terrorist people, crazy and mad...," he added.

Muammar appears to be getting wise in his old age. Or maybe it was those calling cards Mr. Reagan sent him back in 1986 that helped guide him to the light??

7 posted on 07/11/2002 6:52:05 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Shermy
What kind of world do we live in when Momar Quadafi is more statesman-like than the previous government of France??????
8 posted on 07/11/2002 6:55:52 PM PDT by Ahban
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To: Shermy
I do believe that those bombs Reagan dropped on him are still echoing inside his skull, sixteen years later....
9 posted on 07/11/2002 6:56:28 PM PDT by steve-b
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To: dubyaismypresident
Thanks, Kadaffy! This is EXACTLY the type of response we are hoping to generate.

Now round up and execute a few of these guys for us, would you please? Thanks.

10 posted on 07/11/2002 6:59:13 PM PDT by Mr. K
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To: Tennessee_Bob
Kind of says something when one of the world's leading lunatics calls your organization "crazy and mad."

Now, now, now...
Quadaffi had an epiphany...
Remember...
One morning...
In his tent...
When a Regan missle woke him up...literally.

I will have to say, Quadaffi was one of the first to condemn and one of the few ME/Muslim leaders who has consistently continued to condemn the Sept 11 terrorists.
11 posted on 07/11/2002 7:05:11 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Ahban; LarryLied
I will take a hesitant “Pro” Gaddafi position for argument’s sake.

He’s against fundamentalists. Country is big with small population that isn’t anti-American and has old NATO bases. He’s a total nutcase, but I think he’s out of the terrorism game. Wants to be the “hero” of Africa and go off with a twisted, but humanitarian, reputation.

Yes, American bombing threatened him. But legitimately, I think he’s against Osama and all he means. He complains about the West harboring fundamentalists. (As does Egypt, Jordan) Complains that Britain tried to assassinate him with Arab-Afghan fundies. And what I noticed, was the first Arab leader to come out plainly and say America had the right to attack.

I think if it wasn’t for Lockerbie, we’d be having no problems at all with him now. Would be more of an entertainment source, a kooky foreign leader.

Gadaffi: Our New Friend (Really!?)

”...America as any other states and individuals has the right to defend itself, either in accordance with article 51 of the UN Charter, that is actually inoperative or with else. Right of self-defense is a legitimate matter and America possesses the power enabling it to do so. In this regard, America does not need anybody to defend it, strike its enemy or even get assistance to justify that. It is kind of flattering to show readiness to assist America in a matter concerning it.

The second part: Terrorism this matter does not concern America alone. It concerns the entire world. This needs an international cooperation and international procedure.America could not fight it alone. And it is illogic and useless to charge America with this mission. What a pity! Mingling has appeared and confusion in perception. Proceeding and cooperation in this matter (terrorism) is not a service to America like flatterers have shown. =It is a self-defense for each of us. Either America was hit on 119 or not America should not reward who fight terrorism inasmuch as fighting terrorism is not a service to America as those show. It is rather a service to yourself, who among us likes terrorism, who among us likes to live with his children, people and state in a world where terrorism prevails. Terrorism is an awful thing

Unfortunately, the world has shown a high level of hypocrisy, from which has resulted world uneasiness: are we defending America and helping to retaliate and punish those who stroke on 119? Are we adopting an international program to fight terrorism, or according to our wishes eliminating it?

There is a great deference between both matters. Hypocrisy, fear and greediness are the elements behind this mingling, and this confusion these days.

There are pigheaded people that refused to cooperate to fight terrorism, because it has been connected with defending America, or with participation with it against Afghanistan.....”

Define terrorism, urges Gaddafi (Oct. 24)

Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi has entered the debate on terrorism - telling a TV interviewer that the US might just as well bomb London if it is serious about fighting terrorism. "If the United States wants seriously to eradicate terrorism, the first capital that should be pounded with cruise missiles is London," Colonel Gaddafi said on the Arabic satellite news channel al-Jazeera.

"It is the shelter of terrorism," he added, referring to charges that Islamic militants suspected of violence are protected by Britain's policies on political asylum.

Colonel Gaddafi, who said that the US had the right to respond to the 11 September terrorist attacks, called for an international conference to define terrorism and then fight it.

He said that while no one had claimed responsibility for the attacks, the United States could attack Osama bin Laden if it were sure he was responsible.

"If the United States knows who attacked it, and if he admits to attacking the United States, then it would have the right to retaliate against him," the Libyan leader said.

"It would have the right to do whatever necessary without consulting the UN Security Council." Sticking to that "principle", Colonel Gaddafi said that he would have attacked the White House after the US raids on Tripoli in 1986, had he had missiles.

Qadhafi's Problems Persist, Fueling Belief That Compromise Solutions For The Future May Be Possible (Jan. 16, 2002)

Libya's bid to buff image, end US sanctions May 31

BTW, thank you for "Quadafi" - another in a long list of ways to spell his name.

12 posted on 07/11/2002 7:27:47 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy
"Asked what would Libya's reaction be if the United States attacked Iraq, Gaddafi said: "If such a thing takes place, people will say bin Laden was right because America is practising terrorism".

The good Colonel is a true poker player; he waited until the last sentence to show his cards.....

13 posted on 07/11/2002 7:49:49 PM PDT by yooper
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To: Shermy
Gaddafi must be having one of his "night terrors" in the tent again. He probably s#%ts a brick everytime he hears a sonic boom.
14 posted on 07/11/2002 7:56:54 PM PDT by TADSLOS
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To: Ahban
What kind of world do we live in when Momar Quadafi is more statesman-like than the previous government of France??????

Hilarious and true!

15 posted on 07/11/2002 7:57:21 PM PDT by Nov3
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To: Tennessee_Bob
Ghadaffi is neither mad nor a lunatic. Visionary, perhaps, and a mediocre writer and political philosopher. Still a step above most. It is well that he calls Alqaida and terrorists heretics, although I don't know what the word would be in Arabic, assuming they have an exact equivalent. A revolutionary himself, somewhere between Mao and the prophet although not at their intellectual level, if he starts calling these misquided criminals heretics, perhaps that will be enough to spark a general movement in Islam to excommunicate these felons. Up to now, neither heresy nor excommunication has been structurally possible.
16 posted on 07/11/2002 7:57:31 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: Shermy
He declared that America had the right to retaliate and submitted information on Libyans thought to have links with al-Qaeda.

Interesting, to say the very least.

17 posted on 07/11/2002 7:58:20 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse
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To: RightWhale
Very good! Ghaddaffi ---he could be a player. Could have been all along...but we ourselves were too pig-headed to accept the olive branches that he has been attempting to extend our way for a while now. An arab leader, admired by many other arabs---and not afraid to speak his mind. And sometimes---the 'ol boy is right. We have our opinions. Why can't he have his? This guy, at this time in his life (he experienced a spiritual awakening some years back i read) doesn't seem to me to be ready to dance at every single "Arab/Palastinian" tune. Bully for him. He has a mind of his own. We should encourage the arab "street" to listen to his "opinion". Which arab politico could accuse him of being a pawn of the West? We must remember---much of the "arab" world doesn't actually read too well...they go by what they "hear". And this guy could grab their ear from time to time... I say, let the man talk.
Here's a bold one--let Mohammar moderate negotiations, hehehe...make both "sides" of the Middle Eastern conflict hold talks in Libya. THAT would shock 'em! Ol Mo has more than a few "peacable" bones in him nowadays...I'd like to crack open a bottle of wine or two with the guy---and see what he's really like. Hey, he's long been "friends" with many Americans. Like Texas-bred oilmen. Many of THOSE guys stayed in Libya, even when times were very tense between the U.S. and Libya. And he would "entertain" them from time to time. The fellow is not all bad.
18 posted on 07/11/2002 10:03:31 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: Shermy
Yet Libya backs or backed the Revolutionary United Front in Sierra Leone which sold diamonds at below market prices to Al Qaeda which Al Qaeda sold in Belgium for a profit of several million dollars. The deals were done under the protection of Liberian President Charles Taylor in Monrovia. To complicate matters further, Leonard Minin, an Israeli citizen, and former IDF Col Yair Klein also supported the RUF and smuggled arms into Sierra Leone and diamonds out under the protection of Taylor. The diamonds were then, apparently, carried to the mideast under the diplomatic immunity of Liberia's envoy to Israel. Then we come to Ibrahim Bah. Trained by Libya, he is the RUF's principle diamond dealer, and fought with the Iranian-backed Hezbollah in south Lebanon. Hezbollah raises money from Shi'ite Leganese communities in Sierra Leone, Ivory Coast, Burkina Faso and Togo.

What say we nuke them all?

19 posted on 07/12/2002 12:07:21 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: All
little quiz:

What country was the first to request International warrant for Osama Bin Laden through Interpol ?

A) United States 1997
B) France 1998
C)
Libya 1998

20 posted on 07/12/2002 12:36:23 AM PDT by DTA
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