To: Dominic Harr
I rest my case. You believe Darwin, and agree with natural selection. You insult Darwinism for other reasons.
Oh PLEASE!! You are not being truthful here. Your case and your big point on this whole thread was that natural selection over time=evolution. This is where your error occurs. Evolution is not observed, but is an inference that is not supported in fact. Your case and point of error is in equating the two, which are totally different things. One is supported and observable in nature, the other is not. It is like saying 1+1=4. Sorry, but you have no case.
Darwin observed natural selection, like we all do. He didn't observe evolution, and neither does anyone else, because things don't evolve. Once you understand that natural selection does not equal evolution, then we can proceed. I will outline the differences for you:
1. Natural selection is observable in nature.
2. Natural selection occurs without the addition of genetic information. Your bug example falls under this category.
On the other hand, EVOLUTION:
1. Is not observable in nature or experimentation.
2. Presumes that genetic material can be added (once again not observed). Example here would be nice, but not expected.
Also, when you stop debating fact and head for comments like "you insult darwinism for other reasons," your argument loses validity. Let's stick with facts.
To: Blowtorch
Darwin observed natural selection, like we all do. He didn't observe evolution, and neither does anyone else, because things don't evolve. This is the specific mechanism of your denial -- to 'rename' adaption.
The changes that occur in species due to natural selection is called 'evolution'. You don't like the word, for reasons you're not entirely sure of, so you play with the words until you've gotten rid of the threatening word 'evolution'. You agree with the specifics of the theory, but don't like one specific application of the theory, so try and discredit the entire theory.
But you can't ignore the truth. Adaption changes the species fundamentally. And enough small changes to a thing, and you will have a fundamentally different thing.
You say you don't believe in 'evolution', but do believe in natural selection.
What an amazing self-contradiction.
To: Blowtorch
No, dont you understand? Newton discovered the laws of gravity and gravity is observable. Now, Newton believed in intelligent design and (some might say) was a Christian.
So it logically follows that if you believe in gravity that you are a creationist!
(Natural selection sarcasm mode)
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