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I am a Catholic. Neither I, nor my Pontiff, considers there to be a conflict between evolution and a moral God. And John Paul II, for one, shows no sign he's frightened of being judged by a moral God.

You are a Catholic. And you disbelieve the Bible? If the Genesis account is a lie, then how do you know the Gospels are not also a lie? If Genesis is merely a vague allegory, then what makes you think Jesus Christ ever did or said the miracles and teachings He is credited with? If Genesis can be easily shrugged off, why not the Gospels, also?

I have no interest in a rehash of the reformation. The Pope's most recent statement of evolution is here. Read it for yourself, and be sure to tell us all how John Paul II is not a Christian.

Time for a re-post:

This has been going on for centuries. The damage fundamentalists have done to religion is far, far greater than anything science might have done. They are destroying the house in which they dwell, but are too blinded by their own self righteousness to see it.

Be very suspicious of organised religion and its zealots. It is not a path to God; far too often, it is a path away from God.

106 Posted on 05/28/2001 17:39:14 PDT by John Locke

If the Genesis account is a lie, then how do you know the Gospels are not also a lie? If Genesis is merely a vague allegory, then what makes you think Jesus Christ ever did or said the miracles and teachings He is credited with? If Genesis can be easily shrugged off, why not the Gospels, also?

Which is exactly the type of thinking & insecurity that leads people who believe the Bible to be inerrant to think that woman being created from man's rib, the story of Adam & Eve, people living to be several hundred years old, etc should be taught in science classes.

I am a Catholic. Neither I, nor my Pontiff, considers there to be a conflict between evolution and a moral God. And John Paul II, for one, shows no sign he's frightened of being judged by a moral God.

You are a Catholic. And you disbelieve the Bible? If the Genesis account is a lie, then how do you know the Gospels are not also a lie? If Genesis is merely a vague allegory, then what makes you think Jesus Christ ever did or said the miracles and teachings He is credited with? If Genesis can be easily shrugged off, why not the Gospels, also?

In my personal opinion, Gensis is a wonderful creation myth, it worked to explain the origins of man in a nonscientific community, it did an admirable job. It told a story and also taught a lesson. It's not a lie, it is a fictitious story, a fable if you will. You wish to beleive that this fable is absolute truth, well, that's fine and dandy.

God just told me that you owe me 25,000 dollars, please pay it electronically when you get the opportunity, you will be condemned unless you do.

Is that above statement true? It is written, I wrote it, I just told you that god told me, so hey, MUST be the truth, huh?

Fact of the matter is, you wish to believe in your fantasy of the creation myth, it's fine with me, but to try and debate scientific facts with the bible, is like trying to kill a bear with a little stick. It does nothing but upset the bear.

You wish to believe Genesis, please feel free, but do not STOP scientific discovery because you are afraid of what it might do to your fragile beliefs.