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Scientific American threatens AiG : Demands immediate removal of Web rebuttal
AIG ^ | 2002/07/11 | AIG

Posted on 07/11/2002 9:44:50 AM PDT by ZGuy

The prominent magazine Scientific American thought it had finally discredited its nemesis—creationism—with a feature article listing ‘15 Answers to Creationist Nonsense’ (July 2002). Supposedly these were the fifteen best arguments that evolutionists could use to discredit the Bible’s account of Creation. (National Geographic TV also devoted a lengthy report to the article.)

Within 72 hours, Dr Jonathan Sarfati—a resident scientist at Answers in Genesis–Australia—had written a comprehensive, point-by-point critique of the magazine article and posted it on this Web site.

So Scientific American thought it would try to silence AiG with the threat of a lawsuit.

In an e-mail to Dr Sarfati, Scientific American accused him and AiG of infringing their copyright by reproducing the text of their article and an illustration. They said they were prepared to ‘settle the matter amicably’ provided that AiG immediately remove Dr Sarfati’s article from its Web site.

AiG’s international copyright attorney, however, informed Scientific American that their accusations are groundless and that AiG would not be removing the article. Dr Sarfati’s article had used an illustration of a bacterial flagellum, but it was drawn by an AiG artist years ago. AiG had also used the text of SA’s article, but in a way that is permissible under ‘fair use’ of copyrighted materials for public commentary. (AiG presented the text of the SA article, with Dr Sarfati’s comments interspersed in a different color, to avoid any accusations of misquoting or misrepresenting the author.)

Why the heavy-handed tactics? If AiG’s responses were not valid, why would Scientific American even care whether they remained in the public arena? One can only presume that Scientific American (and National Geographic) had the ‘wind taken out of their sails.’ Dr Sarfati convincingly showed that they offered nothing new to the debate and they displayed a glaring ignorance of creationist arguments. Their legal maneuver appears to be an act of desperation. (AiG is still awaiting SA’s response to the decision not to pull the Web rebuttal.)


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KEYWORDS: creation; crevo; crevolist; evolution
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To: Right Wing Professor
You are indeed fortunate to be able to be so much more expert than the Doctors of the Church, with apparently so much less education. Given your expertness, I confess myself totally unqualified to debate you.

God designed Christianity to be available to the humblest of persons. When Jesus walked around asking people "Who do YOU say that I am?" He did not first determine their university credentials.

I am deeply sorry that you have bought into the academic caste system of valuating people by their university pedigrees. No wonder you were so easily brainwashed by the lies of evolution. You can't even grasp your own thougts well enough to stand on your own feet like a man and simply SAY WHAT YOU BELIEVE.

Sad.

261 posted on 07/11/2002 2:43:54 PM PDT by berned
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To: berned
God designed Christianity to be available to the humblest of persons.

And how about God's design of Judaism? Who is that available to? Mormonism? Hinduism?

262 posted on 07/11/2002 2:45:37 PM PDT by JediGirl
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To: Dominic Harr
It's called denial.

Main Entry: de·ni·al
Pronunciation: di-'nI(-&)l, dE-
Function: noun
Date: 1528
1 : refusal to satisfy a request or desire
2 a (1) : refusal to admit the truth or reality (as of a statement or charge) (2) : assertion that an allegation is false b : refusal to acknowledge a person or a thing : DISAVOWAL
3 : the opposing by the defendant of an allegation of the opposite party in a lawsuit
4 : SELF-DENIAL
5 : negation in logic
6 : a psychological defense mechanism in which confrontation with a personal problem or with reality is avoided by denying the existence of the problem or reality

I think that pretty much summs it up

263 posted on 07/11/2002 2:48:42 PM PDT by EBUCK
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To: EBUCK
Sorry, I only use TalkOrigins webpages for toilet paper. If you have some legitimate scientific references with supporting sources, peer reviewed, pass them along.
264 posted on 07/11/2002 2:49:21 PM PDT by That Subliminal Kid
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To: JediGirl
Momrmonism and Hinduism are "whats" not "whos". I don't understand your question as you stated it. Are you asking if Judaism is available for Mormons and Hindus to understand if they want to?
265 posted on 07/11/2002 2:49:44 PM PDT by berned
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To: JediGirl
All those people are doomed to burn in hell because they have neglected to convert to the Kings religion. And AFAIK, ignorance is no excuse either.

EBUCK

266 posted on 07/11/2002 2:50:09 PM PDT by EBUCK
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To: JediGirl
Read what I posted. Creationism doesn't hold "us" back. You are free to move forward. That someone else wants to be a Creationist shouldn't bother you. There isn't some collective net that's effecting you because some other person doesn't agree with you.
267 posted on 07/11/2002 2:51:14 PM PDT by That Subliminal Kid
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To: PatrickHenry
Interesting. So we can actually observe primative forms breeding, mutating and being selected for by a natural process? Wow!
268 posted on 07/11/2002 2:52:30 PM PDT by That Subliminal Kid
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To: Dominic Harr
The first thing you're missing is equating Creationists and ID Theorists.
269 posted on 07/11/2002 2:53:23 PM PDT by That Subliminal Kid
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To: berned
If Christianity is available only to the humblest of people, to what kind of people is Judaism, Mormanism, and Hinduism available?
270 posted on 07/11/2002 2:53:40 PM PDT by JediGirl
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To: That Subliminal Kid
Are you denying that they used the scientific method in those pages? You did in fact ask for an example of the scientific method being applied to the ToE which I provided. Since you don't like TO you can use this Link. I don't think you are going to find the two in much conflict. As a matter of fact, in order for you to be satisfied it seems that you would need to throw out all scientific data and cut your reading down to just one book.

EBUCK

271 posted on 07/11/2002 2:54:40 PM PDT by EBUCK
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To: That Subliminal Kid
That someone else wants to be a Creationist shouldn't bother you.

It doesn't. That someone wants it in the classroom is what bothers me.

272 posted on 07/11/2002 2:54:44 PM PDT by JediGirl
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To: Right Wing Professor
Evolution is a brain disease of the psuedo-intellectual...

simple/honest people aren't fooled--persuaded by nonsense!

Intelligence is a total LIABILITY when it comes to TRUTH--WISDOM--KNOWLEDGE/SCIENCE---Creation/God!


273 posted on 07/11/2002 2:55:19 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: Dimensio
No, no, no.. I want to see the tests that show this process from simple single to multicellular organisms to the vast array of organisms we see today. I want to see the tests which demonstrate that this process is natural, and I want to see the tests that demonstrate that genetic variation and natural selection alone are capable of generating new information. Not a prediction that concludes what was assumed.
274 posted on 07/11/2002 2:55:54 PM PDT by That Subliminal Kid
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To: EBUCK
It's called denial.

Oh, absolutely.

But I'm fascinated at the structure of this debate.

These folks paint themselves into a corner by stating that they do *not* believe in evolution, and then spend a lot of time arguing against evolution.

All the while, they do agree with evolution, and only disagree about the age of the universe.

They're arguing about the wrong thing, and it's easy to prove it to them. Just ask them if they believe that species evolve to adapt to their envrionment. You know when you've gotten too close to the truth when they refuse to talk to you!

Fascinating.

275 posted on 07/11/2002 2:56:15 PM PDT by Dominic Harr
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To: JediGirl
I don't know of anyone who does.
276 posted on 07/11/2002 2:56:26 PM PDT by That Subliminal Kid
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To: That Subliminal Kid
The first thing you're missing is equating Creationists and ID Theorists.

I don't think so, but possibly.

May I ask you -- do you believe that species evolve to adapt to their changing environments?

277 posted on 07/11/2002 2:57:27 PM PDT by Dominic Harr
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To: That Subliminal Kid
The moment that Creationism is taught in public schools (which seems to be the overarching Creationist goal here) we will in fact be held back by creationism. A new dark ages indeed.

EBUCK

278 posted on 07/11/2002 2:57:43 PM PDT by EBUCK
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To: berned
God designed Christianity to be available to the humblest of persons.

No doubt. However, there's a difference between being able to plug in a toaster, and being able to intelligently design a nuclear power plant.

It's not a question of an academic caste system. It's a religious difference. That every person should be able to determine the Creators' will, on his own, from a rather political 17th century translation of a translation of a translation of a compilation of a set of Divinely-inspired works is a very protestant idea.

279 posted on 07/11/2002 2:59:03 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: EBUCK
All those people are doomed to burn in hell because they have neglected to convert to the Kings religion. And AFAIK, ignorance is no excuse either.

What?? I thought Mormomism was the correct religion - or was that just in South Park?

280 posted on 07/11/2002 2:59:24 PM PDT by balrog666
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