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Scientific American threatens AiG : Demands immediate removal of Web rebuttal
AIG ^ | 2002/07/11 | AIG

Posted on 07/11/2002 9:44:50 AM PDT by ZGuy

The prominent magazine Scientific American thought it had finally discredited its nemesis—creationism—with a feature article listing ‘15 Answers to Creationist Nonsense’ (July 2002). Supposedly these were the fifteen best arguments that evolutionists could use to discredit the Bible’s account of Creation. (National Geographic TV also devoted a lengthy report to the article.)

Within 72 hours, Dr Jonathan Sarfati—a resident scientist at Answers in Genesis–Australia—had written a comprehensive, point-by-point critique of the magazine article and posted it on this Web site.

So Scientific American thought it would try to silence AiG with the threat of a lawsuit.

In an e-mail to Dr Sarfati, Scientific American accused him and AiG of infringing their copyright by reproducing the text of their article and an illustration. They said they were prepared to ‘settle the matter amicably’ provided that AiG immediately remove Dr Sarfati’s article from its Web site.

AiG’s international copyright attorney, however, informed Scientific American that their accusations are groundless and that AiG would not be removing the article. Dr Sarfati’s article had used an illustration of a bacterial flagellum, but it was drawn by an AiG artist years ago. AiG had also used the text of SA’s article, but in a way that is permissible under ‘fair use’ of copyrighted materials for public commentary. (AiG presented the text of the SA article, with Dr Sarfati’s comments interspersed in a different color, to avoid any accusations of misquoting or misrepresenting the author.)

Why the heavy-handed tactics? If AiG’s responses were not valid, why would Scientific American even care whether they remained in the public arena? One can only presume that Scientific American (and National Geographic) had the ‘wind taken out of their sails.’ Dr Sarfati convincingly showed that they offered nothing new to the debate and they displayed a glaring ignorance of creationist arguments. Their legal maneuver appears to be an act of desperation. (AiG is still awaiting SA’s response to the decision not to pull the Web rebuttal.)


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: creation; crevo; crevolist; evolution
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To: Right Wing Professor
The only thing morphing is the jello in your head!

Creation/God...Christianity---secular-govt.-humanism/SCIENCE!

Originally the word liberal meant social conservatives(no govt religion--none) who advocated growth and progress---mostly technological(knowledge being absolute/unchanging)based on law--reality... UNDER GOD---the nature of GOD/man/govt. does not change. These were the Classical liberals...founding fathers-PRINCIPLES---stable/SANE scientific reality/society---industrial progress...moral/social character-values(private/personal) GROWTH!

221 posted on 07/11/2002 2:12:24 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: berned
I did. The body of Catholic doctrine, and in particular its analysis of the Bible, is enormous. if you're sincerely interested in learning it, I can show you how to go about it. But I'm not going to demean it to pretend I can explain it to you in a few minutes what men like Aquinas spend their entire lives studying.
222 posted on 07/11/2002 2:12:37 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Saturnalia

You're right. Time for a nap.

223 posted on 07/11/2002 2:13:23 PM PDT by balrog666
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To: berned
Which is exactly the type of thinking & insecurity that leads people who believe the Bible to be inerrant to think that woman being created from man's rib, the story of Adam & Eve, people living to be several hundred years old, etc should be taught in science classes.

According to the Gospels, JESUS believed that Adam and Eve were real, actual people who were created just the way they were portrayed in the Genesis account. Jesus believed that Jonah was in the big fish, etc etc etc. Jesus totally accepted the Old Testament accounts as being a literal intrepretation of the truthful, inerrant word of God. Was Jesus a liar? Was He stupid? Misinformed? Ignorant?

I see that you just proved my point in the top paragraph.

If you think Adam & Eve were the first humans & lived in some magical place called "the Garden of Eden" that's your business. I'd just appreciate it if people kept such mythology out of science class.

224 posted on 07/11/2002 2:13:29 PM PDT by gdani
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To: f.Christian
I really wonder if you're some kind of anti-Christian disruptor trying to give Christians a bad name.
225 posted on 07/11/2002 2:14:40 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: gdani
I copied the top paragraph from YOUR post.

You didn't come within a tousand feet of answering the simple questions I posed to you. Care to try again?

226 posted on 07/11/2002 2:15:59 PM PDT by berned
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To: Dominic Harr
Evolution...Atheism-dehumanism---TYRANNY...

Then came the post-modern age of switch-flip-spin-DEFORMITY-cancer...Atheist secular materialists through ATHEISM/evolution CHANGED-REMOVED the foundations...demolished the wall(separation of state/religion)--trampled the TRUTH-GOD...built a satanic temple/SWAMP-MALARIA/RELIGION(cult of darwin-marx-satan) over them---made these absolutes subordinate--relative and calling/CHANGING all the... residuals---technology/science === evolution to substantiate/justify their efforts--claims...social engineering--PC--atheism...anti-God/Truth RELIGION--and declared a crusade/WAR--JIHAD--INTOLERANCE/TYRANNY...against God--man--society/SCIENCE!!

Changing--morphing words-meaning-reality...

the CONSTITUTION/history via your 'logic-reason' to your fantasy-bias world-bs/IDEOLOGY---LIBERALISM/EVOLUTION is called psychosis(DENIAL)!

227 posted on 07/11/2002 2:16:01 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: berned
Alright, perhaps I can ask you:

Do you agree that species evolve to adapt to their environment every day around us?

228 posted on 07/11/2002 2:16:34 PM PDT by Dominic Harr
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To: EBUCK
That is interesting. Still not convinced, but certainly open. My FAITH (yep, there it is for everyone else out there) is still 'if it happened, God did it'. I'm sure that doesn't please JediGirl OR f.Christian. Too bad.

I agree with maxwell. Time to call it a day. Thanks for the civil crossfire.

229 posted on 07/11/2002 2:18:04 PM PDT by foolish-one
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To: berned
You are a Catholic. And you disbelieve the Bible? If the Genesis account is a lie, then how do you know the Gospels are not also a lie? If Genesis is merely a vague allegory, then what makes you think Jesus Christ ever did or said the miracles and teachings He is credited with? If Genesis can be easily shrugged off, why not the Gospels, also?

I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off.
So I ran over and said "Stop! don't do it!"
"Why shouldn't I?" he said.
I said, "Well, there's so much to live for!"
He said, "Like what?"
I said, "Well...are you religious or atheist?"
He said, "Religious."
I said, "Me too! Are you christian or buddhist?"
He said, "Christian."
I said, "Me too! Are you catholic or protestant?"
He said, "Protestant."
I said, "Me too! Are you episcopalian or baptist?"
He said, "Baptist!"
I said,"Wow! Me too! Are you baptist church of god or baptist church of the lord?"
He said, "Baptist church of god!"
I said, "Me too! Are you original baptist church of god, or are you reformed baptist church of god?"
He said,"Reformed Baptist church of god!"
I said, "Me too! Are you reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1879, or reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1915?"
He said, "Reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1915!"
I said, "Die, heretic scum", and pushed him off.
-- Emo Phillips

230 posted on 07/11/2002 2:18:07 PM PDT by balrog666
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To: maxwell
Thanks. Happens to be true.
231 posted on 07/11/2002 2:18:31 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: f.Christian
Um, 'stream of consciousness' type writing in which a string of words with emotional content is put together with no structure and creative use of punctuation isn't a very good communication tool.

I don't understand the point you're trying to communicate in that post.

Do you agree that species evolve to adapt to changing environments?

232 posted on 07/11/2002 2:18:48 PM PDT by Dominic Harr
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To: berned
That's a pretty mean-spirited and arrogant statement

It was in reply to one in which i was asked if I had some sort of reality distortion disorder.

Why you believe that you can bullyrag me into some sort of repeat of the Reformation is beyond me. The body of Catholic dogma is on line. If you're sincere, go study it.

233 posted on 07/11/2002 2:19:36 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: foolish-one
My FAITH (yep, there it is for everyone else out there) is still 'if it happened, God did it'.

I like this thought very much.

I'm not a Christian, but agnostic.

I have no problem with the possibility that evolution is just God's method or system of tinkering with life.

234 posted on 07/11/2002 2:20:28 PM PDT by Dominic Harr
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To: Right Wing Professor
I notice that you appear to have no opinions of your own, but you repeatedly hide behind the thoughts of "authorities". I am asking YOU, RightWingProffesor, for YOUR thoughts/opinion...

Do YOU believe God revealed the truth in the Gospels? If so, then why do you believe God did NOT reveal the truth in the Old Testament? Why do YOU belive that the Holy Spirit told the truth to Matthew Mark Luke and John -- but that the Holy Spirit lied to Moses?

Simple question.

235 posted on 07/11/2002 2:21:16 PM PDT by berned
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To: f.Christian
Now the block caps come out. You are a disruptor, aren't you? No one's really this crazy.
236 posted on 07/11/2002 2:21:33 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Dominic Harr
---000% Evolution(lame)...1000% Creation/God!

237 posted on 07/11/2002 2:22:01 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: foolish-one
Nothin wrong with attributing the mechanisms of evolution or the origin of life to God. Nothing wrong with being civil either. Later....

EBUCK

238 posted on 07/11/2002 2:23:20 PM PDT by EBUCK
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To: JediGirl
Nazi!!!
/invokes Godwin's Law

Now that's out of the way...
strawberry/kiwi --Jack Chick..Sign---devil-yes!
fruitbasket-case/greenhouse patriarch/lesbian-toadstool
haiku-velivosky/banarama-marching band!!!!

As you can see, this quite clearly proves my point that the universe was created by a small terrier named William.
239 posted on 07/11/2002 2:23:42 PM PDT by Saturnalia
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To: f.Christian
Do you agree that species evolve to adapt to their environment?

All your above statements seem to indicate you do . . .

Yet you hesitate to answer the question.

Interesting.

240 posted on 07/11/2002 2:23:57 PM PDT by Dominic Harr
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