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Expert: Body dumped after defendant fell under suspicion (SO WHO DUMPED DANIELLE VAN DAM'S BODY??)
Union Trib ^ | July 11, 2002 | Steve Perez/Greg Magnus

Posted on 07/11/2002 6:47:45 AM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: UCANSEE2
Look back over this thread, and tell me who is screaming, ranting and raving? I'm cool as a cucumber on this issue.
321 posted on 07/11/2002 12:30:42 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
I addressed the subject of "child porn" and the truth of whether or not it is his.

Ah. So your contention is the evidence was planted.

"Johnny Cochran, call your office."

322 posted on 07/11/2002 12:32:05 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: cyncooper
I was addressing your hypothetical about a child in my neighborhood missing and the possibility of forensic evidence connected to them in my car or house.

Question: are you a specialist in the field of forensics? If so, which field and how many years of experience do you have in it?

323 posted on 07/11/2002 12:33:10 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: RnMomof7
I'm curious: Are you simply hoping the Van Dams are the real culprits because of their alleged lifestyle? Does it not matter to you what the facts are?
324 posted on 07/11/2002 12:35:01 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: demsux
OFFICIAL DW TRIAL THREAD THESAURUS

Insectophile
Slut Jackals
Feldmanized

325 posted on 07/11/2002 12:36:40 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Illbay
Ah. So your contention is the evidence was planted.

Do try to keep up, Johnny-come-lately.

It really helps to know what you're talking about if you want to avoid eating leather. The child porn was very likely Westerfield's son's.

Hint: Watching the trial is a helpful tool. Make a note to yourself.

326 posted on 07/11/2002 12:38:14 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: UCANSEE2
Question: are you a specialist in the field of forensics? If so, which field and how many years of experience do you have in it?

Can I get like, all indignent, dramatic and call you crude if you ask me this question instead of just simply answering, "no" ? :)
327 posted on 07/11/2002 12:38:42 PM PDT by pyx
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To: John Jamieson
There is some limited search capability on the San Diego County Website.

You can't see the actual documents on the website, tho'.

328 posted on 07/11/2002 12:39:05 PM PDT by RightField
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To: pyx
Then again, I'd like to think of myself as, smart, talented, and good looking. Alas, all I am in your eyes is an ignorant Southern farmboy. I take great pride in being the latter.

Howdy neighbor and God bless you! :-)

329 posted on 07/11/2002 12:40:21 PM PDT by Karson
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To: cyncooper
This is not a juror we're talking about here. It is the father of the murder victim.

Well, I was talking about people who believe a person is guilty unless proven innocent. I was talking about TV pundit, Nancy Glass, being one of those. She already has him guilty without the trial being over.

330 posted on 07/11/2002 12:40:44 PM PDT by Spunky
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To: Illbay
MY QUESTION WAS: So why are you trying to 'strain at gnats' if you so object to it?

YOUR ANSWER WAS: Look back over this thread, and tell me who is screaming, ranting and raving? I'm cool as a cucumber on this issue.

Maybe you can help me understand, what does you answer have to do with the question? And are you going to answer the question?

So far I am enjoying your position as an opponent on the discussion of this thread. You are at least sticking in there and trying.

331 posted on 07/11/2002 12:41:52 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: cyncooper
Since you stated that "at this point I'd vote for a conviction" that must mean that, during his case in chief, the prosecutor convinced you BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT that David Westerfield is guilty of kidnapping and murdering Danielle. It also means that thus far the defense has not created any reasonable doubt to cause you to change that opinion.

Sometime yesterday I posted some questions that I personally would want answered before I could find David Westerfield guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. The prosecution did not provide any answers, but since at this time you are convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that Westerfield is guilty, maybe you can answer my questions. Please tell me:

1. When and how did David Westerfield kidnap Danielle?
2. When and how did David Westerfield murder Danielle?
3. When and how did David Westerfield dispose of Danielle's body?

I would certainly appreciate any help you could provide.
332 posted on 07/11/2002 12:43:18 PM PDT by bolthead
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To: pyx
Can I get like, all indignent, dramatic and call you crude

Depends, are you smiling when you say it ?

333 posted on 07/11/2002 12:45:12 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Rheo
Thanks for the correction.

After the testimony about laundry being dropped over the balcony, wouldn't it be easy for a washcloth, rag, etc. to get her hair on it in the laundry, (or even on the counter in the kitchen?) and be washed down the drain, into the trap?

I guess I'm thinking the trap location of that hair doesn't seem too damning to me, seeing as how he did use the MH that weekend.

(But I didn't mistate the rest of the evidence, nor the fact that that list sums up the Prosecution's case?)
334 posted on 07/11/2002 12:48:24 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: bolthead
Good luck getting your questions answered.

Not once, have any one of the posters who feel him guilty from the start, responded to the questions.

While the innocent until proven guilty folks have posted scenerio after scenerio (some bizarre, yes) but the guilty folks won't even tell us how...prosecution wouldn't either.

335 posted on 07/11/2002 12:48:41 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: pinz-n-needlez; All
I also find the fact the Ott and Keyser were in his SUV on 2/5...(passenger and rear), and the blue gray fibers were found their the next day.

Ott & Keyser were in his house,2/5 and sitting at his dining room table the evening of 2/5...blue gray fibers found.

Ott was at the recovery scene..blue/gray fibers found.

What was Ott and Keyser wearing???...the blue police jacket posted previously?..a blue nylon windbreaker?

The fiber evidence means very little to me at this point as no source is known and most were not microspectometered.

But if we want to discuss fibers, what about the red fibers found on the body that did not show up at DW's??

p.s.....another correction on your previous evidence.....the shoulder stain on jacket was 1 3/16", the lapel was 3/16 (DW's DNA)

336 posted on 07/11/2002 12:55:55 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: GoRepGo
I have sent two..I told them that I suspect that Westerfield may have a law suit against them for their obvious attempt to bias the jury during its break..

I had to blow off steam too!

337 posted on 07/11/2002 12:56:16 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Karson
I was watching -- way back -- when Feldman brought up the Feb 16 phone call to Brenda on crossexam. She looked like she was about to faint but of course Mudd sustained the objection and she didn't have to answer. She still looked rattled tho. I wish I had a clip of that.

For the uninitiated, can someone please give a theory as to what the February 16 phone call might be (and why the prosecution would be so afraid of it)?

338 posted on 07/11/2002 12:56:41 PM PDT by winstonchurchill
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To: Rheo
Good luck getting your questions answered. Not once, have any one of the posters who feel him guilty from the start, responded to the questions.

You know, I have noticed this. The FIRECRACKERS jump in, tell everybody how wrong they are, then when asked to back it up, answer a few questions, they ignore you.

They then go on to run around and DEMAND that YOU and I give answers, provide PROOF, but they never will, they just go on to another subject, or jump on another poster.

A new one for the THESAURUS !

FIRECRACKERS = A bunch of noise and sparks, a little fire, but mostly smoke, and then after a while, they are gone.

339 posted on 07/11/2002 12:59:18 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
OFFICIAL DW TRIAL THREAD THESAURUS

Insectophile=
Slut Jackals=
Feldmanized=
FIRECRACKERS = A bunch of noise and sparks, a little fire, but mostly smoke, and then after a while, they are gone.

340 posted on 07/11/2002 1:00:20 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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