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Defense could pin hopes on insect life..Westerfield Trial Breaking News: BUG EVIDENCE QUESTIONS!!
Union Tribune ^ | July 10, 2002 | Kristen Green

Posted on 07/10/2002 3:17:09 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: Henrietta
But the latest date seems kind of meaningless, since it could have been put there before the 16th, an indeterminable time before the 16th. This means that it could have been there on the 16th, or it could have been there on the 2nd, right? So I don't see how this testimony help DW at all. It just means that the body wasn't dumped after the 16th-18th of Feb.

I don't disagree, but Feldman got Faulkner to say that he only saw one generation of flies, which could support a conclusion that the body was disposed of around 2/16-18.

The real key is that there were no beetle larva in/on the body. This is what establishes the no earlier than date after a time that DW could have disposed of the body.

81 posted on 07/10/2002 4:23:52 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: cyncooper
I just want someone to ask the bug guy - "Given the totality of the evidence you examined, and in your experienced expert opinion - when was her body placed at the recovery site?" Why can't it just be that simple?
82 posted on 07/10/2002 4:24:25 PM PDT by mommya
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To: Politicalmom
Plus Faulkner said that even in mummfication, flies would be on the inside. Dusak back on and on and on and........
83 posted on 07/10/2002 4:24:54 PM PDT by gigi
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To: connectthedots
If Faulkner had information that would have placed that body on Dehesa on 2/2-2/4, the prosecution would have put him on the stand. It would have been "the nail in the coffin", so to speak. They didn't want to use his testimony.

I think it was most telling that Faulkner was so puzzled by the bug activity/lack of bugs that he found, that he had to call the ME and ask if the body had been contained somehow.
84 posted on 07/10/2002 4:26:00 PM PDT by NatureGirl
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To: connectthedots
Feldman will ask one question that will seal the deal, "Mr. Faulkner, have you ever examined a body and not detected beetle larva withing 21 days?" The answer will be "No" and that is all the jury will need to hear.

A gold star for you. Exactly.
85 posted on 07/10/2002 4:26:00 PM PDT by pyx
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To: NatureGirl
"I think it was most telling that Faulkner was so puzzled by the bug activity/lack of bugs that he found, that he had to call the ME and ask if the body had been contained somehow."

Big BUMP for that comment.

86 posted on 07/10/2002 4:27:41 PM PDT by mommya
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To: Henrietta
Henrietta, I don't think I followed your drift at first reading. Sorry for skimming! I think you've got it right. The body could have been there as early as the weekend of the 2nd (My theory is Sunday night).
87 posted on 07/10/2002 4:27:53 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Politicalmom
Still not sure..For some reason ,the body didn't decompose in a natural way. Someone needed a witness to explain "why".
88 posted on 07/10/2002 4:28:02 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: connectthedots
IMO, Feldman's last elicited answer hammered home the impact of Faulkner's testimony.

There is nothing to indicate any reason there is no evidence of earlier insect activity.

That is what the jury is left with for ten days.

Read 'em and weep VDAs.

89 posted on 07/10/2002 4:29:47 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: pyx
Can we hear people falling off the fence?
90 posted on 07/10/2002 4:29:59 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: UCANSEE2
DUSEK again. (what is this, cross/cross examination? How many times does he get to do this?)

Trying to say Flys not attracted to Trash like tires, refrigerators, boxes.etc.

I can't hardly follow DUSEK.

Dusek trying to imply that it took animals several weeks to smell out Daneille's body and bite into it. Thenthe 10-12 days for the fly larvae procedure happened.

JMO: If her body was dumped, animals would have gotten to it the first night.

IMO he just failed to prove Danielle's body was there before approx. 16th FEB.

91 posted on 07/10/2002 4:30:06 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: NatureGirl
I missed the last question prior to Feldman dismissing Faulkner. What was the question and the answer?
92 posted on 07/10/2002 4:30:47 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: cyncooper
I live in a rural area and see it all the time. 24 hours is more than enough to start.
93 posted on 07/10/2002 4:31:00 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: UCANSEE2
Yeah. Why did he get to come back after redirect???

94 posted on 07/10/2002 4:31:26 PM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: All
Feldman left the jury with a good one!! When he asked Faulkner, "There's no explaination why there were no insects on the body BEFORE Feb. 16th, correct? Answer, "Correct."

I am paraphrasing but think it's close enough. Anyone agree with me?
95 posted on 07/10/2002 4:33:05 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: All
So is this what everyone got out of the testimony - that although there was some kind of insect stuff that showed the body could've been there 3 weeks - there was other bug stuff that showed this could not be the case - and Dusek tried to divert the jury away from the evidence that excludes the longer timeframe?
96 posted on 07/10/2002 4:33:08 PM PDT by mommya
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To: connectthedots
Sorry. I'm not following it live at this moment. Can't help.
97 posted on 07/10/2002 4:33:14 PM PDT by NatureGirl
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To: connectthedots
Feldman's last question was something to the effect of asking if there was any reasonable explanation for the lack of activity that would indicate and earlier PMI. Faulkner simply answered, "No."
98 posted on 07/10/2002 4:33:16 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: cyncooper; All
Cyn: Look at post 80! This would seem to not go with your Sunday night theory...

All:Now I get it! Thanks to all of you for putting up with my silly questions!

99 posted on 07/10/2002 4:33:47 PM PDT by Henrietta
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To: NatureGirl
I agree NG--All I know is if I was on that jury I couldn't send this man to the death chamber if I wasn't sure how long her body was there.
100 posted on 07/10/2002 4:33:55 PM PDT by the-gooroo
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