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White Supremacists to March Through Georgia Town
Reuters ^

Posted on 07/10/2002 12:23:09 PM PDT by RCW2001

— GAINESVILLE, Ga. (Reuters) - A group of white supremacists said Wednesday its members and sympathizers would march through this Georgia town this weekend to protest an influx of Hispanic immigrants in the area.

The National Alliance, a West Virginia-based group that advocates the establishment of all-white "living areas" in the United States and other Western nations, said the march on Saturday would focus attention on the links between illegal immigration and gang-related crime in the Gainesville area.

About 30 percent of Gainesville's population of 27,242 is Hispanic, according to the 2000 Census. Racial tensions in the town, located about 50 miles northeast of Atlanta, have risen in the past year after a number of drug-related crimes blamed on Mexican gangs.

"Gainesville has been swamped with uncontrolled immigration and we told them last year that they were going to have problems with gangs," said Chester Doles, a coordinator for the National Alliance in Lumpkin County, north of Gainesville.

Doles added that the Sept. 11 attacks on the United States had fueled greater interest in the group's anti-immigration message and activities. "The local citizens are responding more than last year," Doles said.

The march is due to begin at 8 a.m. EDT on Saturday and is expected to last about an hour. Local law enforcement authorities and community leaders are telling residents to stay at home during the rally.


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To: Catspaw
I'm thinking Port Barrow, Alaska.

Nope. Too many non-white Eskimos. The whitest place in the U.S. is Vermont (97%) though I doubt the N.A. would be welcomed there.

41 posted on 07/10/2002 1:39:09 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Catspaw; Drew68
I'm thinking Port Barrow, Alaska.

Oops! Pardon me. My sarcasm-detector was not working properly. :)

42 posted on 07/10/2002 1:41:58 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Conservative Chicagoan
Do you think they might really be leftists?

They are socialists. All of these white supremist groups believe in all sorts of socialist programs and are always talking about the evils of capitalism. They are not federalists or republicans. Do a little research and visit a few of their websites and check it out for yourself.
43 posted on 07/10/2002 1:46:10 PM PDT by Libertarian_4_eva
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To: Dimensio
They are in the country illegally. That, to me, is sufficient reason to have them deported.

I guess some people are a little sensitive to treating poor little illegal immigrants who are in this country illegal as though they are breaking the law.


Not me! I agree with your statement above completely. But that has nothing to do with the questions I asked you about your previous post.
44 posted on 07/10/2002 1:53:04 PM PDT by GreenEggsHam
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To: weikel
Because they often are.
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How often? In your experience or nationwide? What are you basing this statement on?
45 posted on 07/10/2002 1:54:11 PM PDT by GreenEggsHam
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To: GreenEggsHam
Personal experience and hearsay. I don't have the time or the bodyguards to conduct a statistical study.
46 posted on 07/10/2002 1:56:11 PM PDT by weikel
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To: RWG
Because it's probably true. Countless articles here at FR have documented the costs to taxpayers of the illegals. I see it all the time around here in the hopitals, in the social service agencies, on the street corners, and in the check out lines at grocery stores. All age groups and racial heritages are represented by those with food stamps, 'program' vouchers for medical care, housing allowances, etc. Locally when I see a group of white kids they are on some sports team or another or are sk8boarders. When I see groups of non-white kids together they are loaded into cars with darkened windows and have rumbling vibrating sound waves of the hip-hop genre blasting away or are standing around street corners with very menacing appearances and speech and behavior patterns. Unlike the homosexual character of Will and Grace I do judge and I have my tax bills to say who I am to be able to judge.
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Wait, are you talking about illegals or non-whites? What does your tax bill have to do with being in a position to judge?
47 posted on 07/10/2002 1:57:07 PM PDT by GreenEggsHam
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Will these guys chant Chad Brock's lyrics as they march along?
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I don't know who chad brock is?
48 posted on 07/10/2002 1:58:23 PM PDT by GreenEggsHam
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To: weikel
Personal experience and hearsay. I don't have the time or the bodyguards to conduct a statistical study.
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that's what I thought
49 posted on 07/10/2002 1:59:13 PM PDT by GreenEggsHam
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To: Dakmar
Read the Turner Diaries, which has been referred to as the White Supremacists' Bible. Their ideal country is, at the end, a white nation based on collectivism.
50 posted on 07/10/2002 2:05:18 PM PDT by sharktrager
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To: Drew68
I was thinking of the climate, not the population :-))

51 posted on 07/10/2002 2:06:56 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: GreenEggsHam
Actually, I should have said hum. It's not clear these guys will know the words. Chad Brock (some kind of singer) was the topic of a long thread about his comments that Hispanics should leave the country.
52 posted on 07/10/2002 2:08:29 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: Dimensio
They are in the country illegally.

How do you know they are in the country illegally?

53 posted on 07/10/2002 2:14:23 PM PDT by FreeLibertarian
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To: HELLRAISER II
It's a shame then that those nasty cut-throat Cubans normally vote Republican...Imagine if the election went the way the whiny white leftist Miami area liberals wanted it.
54 posted on 07/10/2002 2:20:25 PM PDT by constitutiongirl
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To: sharktrager
Well, I'm not going to waste my time on such drivel, but I get the idea. All forms of identity politics are collectivist, basically, and anathema to the idea of individual liberty, which is at the core of my belief system.
55 posted on 07/10/2002 2:20:37 PM PDT by Dakmar
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To: Puppage; RCW2001; All
Doesn't "tolerance" fall into this game? Just because people don't agree w/their views, doesn't mean they can't march. Kind of like the gay pride parades, no? We're told to show tolerence THERE...why not here as well?

First let me say that both groups are anathema to me, and thus quite repulsive. However i have to emphasize the fact that the so called 'White Supremacist' groups are of a different nature to 'Gay Pride' groups..... much much worse.

The reasons for this are myriad, and quite simple at that. First of all to many Christians Gay Pride groups are a bastion of moral atrophy, spiritual decay, and all that is abhorable. This is not to say that Christians do not love the people who choose that lifestyle.....it only means they love the just do not like the lifestyle (but love the person).

HOWEVER the White Supremacists are everything abhorable that the Gay Prode groups are, and then MUCH more! They are considerably much worse. After all this is a group that will go and use fear, intimidation, threat of violence and actual violence to spawn schisms, dissention, and make certain population segments feel out of place and hated! They go out of their way to make certain people (read Jews, African-Americans, Hispanic-Americans, Asian-Americans) and anyone else who does not fit into their narrow visin of caucasian feel unwelcome. They are abrasive and attritive....and full of vitriolic angst.

Some of them even go as far as commiting blatant violence such as unabated verbal attacks, physical beatings and even murder! Tell me the last time you hear the Rainbow Coalition tie a person up and drag them until their limbs started to get torn off by the road surface and their head was found miles away from the body; or when did you hear GLAAD jump into a pick-up truck and trail a black woman and her two kids for several miles, shooting their car full of rifle rounds?

I may not like Glaad, and may even not want them in my community, but at least i am sure that there presence will not lead to some hapless little Jewish kid or black girl being tied up to some fence and killed for making the wrong turn and ending up in the 'Supremacist camp!

And a funny thing i have noticed. I have ran into several 'White Supremacists' and the weird thing is that none of them are 'superior' at anything! All of them to the letter (the ones i have met) are all ignorant people who never saw the insides of a highschool, dirt poor and living in either some trailer park or such conditions, and with such a limited grasp of intelectual acumen that they are basically humanoid automatons that follow the beck and call of their leader (who by the way is a demagogue and only uses these poor souls to further his nefarious ends). Yet they claim they are superior!?!

Anyways i may dislike Gay Parades....but i know for sure that you cannot compare the KKK, AN, or Skinheads to them! After all we know in which settlement any person with the name of Goldberg or Li or Spielberg or Mwangi would rather find his car with a flat in......the gay camp! Why? Because hate them or not the gays will not string you up on a wire fence and set you on fire........but the supremacist (depending on how drunk they are or how low their collective intellect is on that day) would do that in half a heart beat.

One group disrespects their own body....the other group tries to bring harm to others as well. And although in the US we have the freedom for expression....if that law was ever repealed (and i hope it never is...but just for the sake of discussion lets say it was) i would rather see the White Supremacist groups go before the GLAAD groups! Not because i like GLAAD or the Rainbow Coalition (i actually find them anathema....by the way ask your 'local skinhead what that word means and he will probably look at you ga-ga and start twirling around like a top with one hand rubbing the top fo his head and the other vigourously doing the same to his tummy)...but i know that whether i dislike GLAAD or not they will not go and try to kill innocent people with hangings and dragging and shooting and burnings (all those are recent 'actions' by several Supremacist groups in the last 3years). However the various White Supremacist groups have the history of using violence to further their dimwitted goals.

And one of the worst (if you discount the thousands of hangings prior to 1950 in the Black Communities) was the one in Oklahoma City by Tim McVeigh.....who killed hundreds in a bid to bring the writings of some White Supremacist novel to life (the book, i forget its name, strived to show how the attack of a government hub would lead to anarchy and chaos, that would elad to the rise of of renewed White 'Bortherhood' and 'cleanse' the nation of America)! And the ironic thing is that most of the dead were white..... and that that act just made more people see how stupid these groups are!

Hence the cover of Tolerance does cover both of these groups (the Gays and the 'Supremacists'....i get a fit of giggles everytime i type in 'supremacists). However one of the groups seems to not know the meaning of 'tolerance.' I wonder which?

I also wonder which would do more physical damage to a lost Korean-American girl walking through their settlement, or to a Jewish Father, or a Black Mother, or a White girl with a dark tan that makes her look half mexican?

That by the way is a rhetorical question!

56 posted on 07/10/2002 2:27:48 PM PDT by spetznaz
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To: All
I hate that they are marching in my state. The people that belong to this and similar orgs are hicks who had parents who taught them no values whatsoever. And let me say this: there is no true Christians in any of these groups. A true believer does not enlist in orgs like this. I'm not sure why they march either. Those marches are totally counterproductive. Seeing some guy on the 6:00 news with several teeth missing, using incomplete sentences and mangled syntax, telling us how superior whites are just does not impress.....
57 posted on 07/10/2002 2:39:05 PM PDT by Malcolm
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To: spetznaz
If you look at my profile you will see that I have not been a member long but I have been lurking quite a while. But since this is taking place in my neck of the woods then I thought I should comment.

First the NA. They are really scum. We had a forum here in Hall County that I really enjoyed. They finally had to close it down because of these people. Their lanuage, threats, and rudeness was awful. They would spam the board about twice a day. One woman even posted a poem she claims her 13 year old daughter wrote about the poor little Arab hero's of 9-11. Made me barf. These people are worse than the klan ever thought about being.They hold these rallies about once a year and the police tell the population to stay at home.

Now to the other side of the coin. I do not shop in Gainesville anymore. In fact I try not to go through the town unless it's necessary. I have friends that have been robbed in broad daylight, by Mexicans, at the Wal-Mart that was mentioned. My sister was chased to her car by 4 Mexican boys. She got in and locked the doors and they were beating on the car. One of my friends sister was killed by a drunk Hispanic last week who was driving on the wrong side of the road. He was released from jail with his signature because they didn't want to pay his medical bills. He had no liscense or insurance. My friend went by the address that he gave them and they had already moved out. There are shoot outs and drive-by shootings at least twice a week. The southern part of Gainesville looks like a third world village. The men stand out on the street, yelling at people that go by, urinating in the parking lots of stores. And on and on and on......Sorry, I'm ranting.

Someone asked how did they know they were illegal? Because even the cops know that the Chicken Plants send trucks down to bring back loads to work. And as for as not being able to find anyone to work, that's bull$hit. Americans were working there before the plants decided that they could pay the Hispanics a lot less.

They use our hospital's emergency rooms as Doc. offices. That way they don't have to pay the bill. You can not get into the emergency room these days. They have caught women claiming each others children to get more food stamps. Our schools are overflowing. Where my children went to school they have had to open an old school that had been closed to have the 4th and 5th grades there. They only have heat in the classrooms and the lunchroom. And we pay for all of this. So now that I have been on my soap box I will climb back down and fade into the woodwork.

58 posted on 07/10/2002 3:17:55 PM PDT by georgiabelle
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To: FreeLibertarian
Er, I was answering a question regarding people who have entered the country without following legal procedures. As such, I was speaking only regarding people who are in the country illegally.
59 posted on 07/10/2002 3:21:40 PM PDT by Dimensio
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To: georgiabelle
And as for as not being able to find anyone to work, that's bull$hit. Americans were working there before the plants decided that they could pay the Hispanics a lot less.

You're right, it is bullsh*t. I saw the same thing here in MO : people spent years working at the two poultry processing plants in my hometown. Starting in the mid 1990s, the managers of those plants began systematically firing and laying off local workers, while the percentage of 'imported' workers rose higher and higher. Once the 'imported' workers reached a certain percentage inside the plants, reports were heard of assaults on local workers, women being attacked in the parking lots, even a case of gang rape on the plant floor. Today, those plants are nearly entirely staffed by 'imported' workers. The laid off local workers are either moving away or working 2-3 minimum wage jobs to survive, businesses are closing due to the loss of wage earners, and the only places that seem to be thriving are payday loan places, used car lots, fast food joints, and wal mart. And the poultry plants that threw out local workers like trash for the sake of paying a buck less an hour.

60 posted on 07/10/2002 3:27:14 PM PDT by kaylar
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