New evidence implicates Westerfield: (Dusek Fires Final Shot?) Trial Thread, July 10, 2002

Union Trib ^ | July 10, 2002 | Steve Perez/Greg Magnus

[jacquej]

anyone notice that "Valtrex" is a big advertiser on CourtTV... Valtrex, as I understand it, is supposed to be a control/cure for the symptoms of genital herpes....

Now, is it a big stretch for me to conclude that CourtTV just might have a motive to downplay the unpleasant consquences of profilgate sex, so as to make advertising the "cure/control" for such an unpleasant consquence of rampant sex with whoever, so unendlingly profitable?

Oh, how devious the media just might be... Does BVD have a major position, position- wise, or stock-wise, in Valtrex? Would we ever be told? Doubtful! (Maybe dear BVD will become the spokewoman for Valtrex, a tidy contract assuring her the mortgage payment on the new 850,000 hut in Carmel)

Could CourtTV be trusted to tell us the whole truth and nothing but, concerning the best way to avoid having to pay some drug company for the rest of our "sexually-active" lives to be free of annoying symptoms... I really and seriously doubt it....

[UCANSEE2]

I have tried many times, and I can't get it up. The San Diego Channel -live broadcast of the DW trial, that is.

[the Deejay]

Me, too. I hadn't seen anyone else comment on this obvious court bias, yet I've noticed this being a constant & daily occurence since the beginning of the trial.

No wonder Westerfield appears 'down in the dumps' so many times. I would be too! Hell's bells, I'd probably be in major trouble with the court, because I'd be screaming "Bias!" each time in happened to my attorney.

Well, the jury is sitting nearest to Dusek & his sarcasm & yelling when cross examiming of defense witnesses could put them into a coma.......easily! LOL!

[gigi]

It also seems to me that he gives the prosecution alot more leeway in cross than he allowed the defense. For example
Feldman "Obejection, facts not in evidence"
Judge "OVERRULED"
Dusek "Objection, facts not in evidence"
Judge "Sustained"

[Jaded]

HOW THE HECK DID I MISS THAT?

You got post 666

You are today's winner.

[shezza]

LOL! I'm surprised they don't fly an American flag in the background. "Freedom! It's the American way!"

[MizSterious]

Kim, you don't know much about "drinking problems" apparently. Most people who have them don't believe they have them. Others around them who do believe they have them try to "save them" from themselves. The drinkers tend to resent that. Indeed, no amount of "saving" will work until the drinker him/herself begins to believe they have a problem--and more important--that they want to confront it and do something about it. They can be forced to go to treatment, led to water as it were, but no one can force them to give up drinking if they are unwilling.

This has broken up many couples, friends, and families. It does not in any way indicate that this lovely woman broke up with him because he's a murderer.

[Mrs.O'Strategery]

Sorry if this was already discussed...I missed the first hour of the trial this morning (and therefor a little of this thread.) Rick Roberts and River just said that David VanDam has filed motions with the court to be allowed back into the courtroom. Dusek and Feldman are supposed to argue on this motion tomorrow...if I heard correctly. Anyone have anymore info on this?

[FresnoDA]

CONGRATULATIONS...YOU ARE THE VD THREAD Mark of the Beast WINNER FOR TODAY....666!!!

To: Rheo

Thanks hunny! Coupla questions...
What is the import of the black boot testimony?

666 posted on 7/10/02 12:51 PM Pacific by Henrietta
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Major ritual "sabbat" date on the Occult/Witchcraft/Satanism calendar.

This date sticks out....February 2, 2002    Danielle Van Dam, Age 7

DATE: February 2 NAME: IMBOLIC; IMBOK; CANDLEMAS; OIMELE; LADY DAY; BRIGID DAY WITCHCRAFT: Sexual rituals; Celtic triple goddess Brigid honored. SATANISM: Sexual rituals, human

[Jaded]

Um, that happened once or twice when the ex-brother in law was in court the first couple of days sitting behind the defendant. Oooops.

[the Deejay]

"It also seems to me that he gives the prosecution alot more leeway in cross than he allowed the defense. For example
Feldman "Obejection, facts not in evidence"
Judge "OVERRULED"
Dusek "Objection, facts not in evidence"
Judge "Sustained"


EXACTLY my point!!!

[MizSterious]

Gee, there must be some mistake. I don't see my name on there, and the last time I heard, they thought I might have already won. ;)

[Henrietta]

Omigosh! I got post 666 on Monday, too! Anybody seen my lint brush and my bleach?

[FresnoDA]

GREAT MINDS...T.A.....

[UCANSEE2]

just said that David VanDam has filed motions with the court to be allowed back into the courtroom.

AND in other news, BRENDA is relaxing in her NEW $850,000 home, with her NEW BMW in the DRIVEWAY.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?????

[shezza]

Trial resumes at 4:30 Eastern, 1:30 Pacific. If it's okay with Rheo (who may be suffering from carpal tunnel with all the typing she's done!), do you think you could start off? I might be back toward the end of the day to help out again, but I can't promise.

A blessing on your head!

[FresnoDA]

Tell me you ARE NOT GOING to Boston.....Duh-Knees is there you know...

[rolling_stone]

http://arcc.co.san-diego.ca.us/services/grantorgrantee/search_detail.asp?txtFormInput=VanDAm++Brenda&PageNo=1&DocNo=2002-139362

nothing yet at the recoder's site...

[pyx]

[Dusek is going to look stupid] going to.......?

Dusek is doing the best he can with what he has.
Pfingst was the problem with this case, again in my opinion.

This is not only case the SD DA is prosecuting or the only case the SD PD is investigating. There ARE budgets these people have to work within. And there are other cases. Investigating to the level of detail some of us on these threads seem to expect, is just not practicable, in my opinion.

And on the other hand the Van Dams. I don't believe they killed their own daughter. (or perhaps I don't want to believe that.) As much as I personally loathe their proclavities and disgusting activities, and as much as I personally am convinced they were (and perhaps still are) fairly neglectful of their children, I don't believe they had a direct hand in Danielle's death. As to the other "pizza partiers", I haven't thought much about them.

My own opinions on David Alan Westerfield.
David Westerfield does indeed have evidence against him. He was the suspect. The SD PD are obligated to follow up on investigative leads. When things are rushed and hurried, as they are during a missing child search, mistakes and ASSUMPTIONS are going to be made. The extent of those mistakes in some cases makes me somewhat disturbed. The appearing and disappearing towels is bothersome. (I've heard of throwdown guns, perhaps there is such a thing as throwdown evidence but I have no idea if that's the case here .) There are other parts of some of the physical evidence that, in my own opinion, has questionable chain of custody considerations and in some cases (the blood) wonder if questions about profession miscoduct might be in order. Again, that's my own opinion, YMMV.

More speculation on my part below. I have NOTHING to substantiate or base the following on other than gut instinct.

Why was David Alan Westerfield focused on ?
I really have to wonder if it was Brenda Van Dam who was REJECTED by David Westerfield at Dad's on February 1, 2002. Brenda had been turned down by Ryan and LePage's daughter (Ryan was official boyfriend for the night)) (forgot her name for the moment while writing this).) I have to wonder if Brenda being turned down by David Westerfield fueled a bit of revenge and "get eveness" in Brenda and she turned her worry, fear and anger about Danielle into a swipe in the form of an accusation at David Westerfield on February 2, 2002. Again, this is pure speculation on my part. This may have focuse the SD PD on David Alan Westerfield.

At this point in time, I am inclined to think David Alan Westerfield is innocent. As far as his drinking, I suspect it is partly because of his early life. He was rejected by his parents when he was 18. Some of us had to fend for ourselves much much younger and we didn't end up being a suspect in a murder trial or end up with drug or alcohol problems. I suspect like most of us, David Westerfield has spent most of his life trying to belong to something that was taken away when he was younger. In his case, he never succeeded. Drinking can make one quite introspective. There are some of us who should not be crossed when we do go those those places in our own minds to be introspective. In fact, dare I say it, some of us don't desire others tromping blindly about inside our heads trying to second guess our thoughts.

I suspect someone else entirely took Danielle either from inside her home or outside of her home in the early morning hours of February 2, 2002. From the unIDed finger and palm prints on the sliding glass doors, I am leaning towards an abduction from inside the Van Dam home and Danielle may have been unconscious or dead and removed in a blue blanket slung over someone's back like a sack. Beyond, the above, I won't even guess.

[connectthedots]

It seems that so far, the real evidence consists of similar very short nylon blue-gray fibers from an unknown source and which appear to be a very common color/fiber type. Does anyone know if the SDPD wears 'blue uniforms' which are more of a 'steel blue'? If so they could be the source of the blue-gray fibers.

Who handled the sheet in which the body of Danielle was placed prior to putting Danielle's body in it, and did those who recover the body take appropriate care to insure the sheet was not contaminated and taken from a sealed container of some sort? Also, why were there far more fibers on the sheet holding the body of Danielle than on Danielle's body (I think I recall that only one fiber was found on her body)? One would think that far more fibers would have been 'stuck' and remained stuck as her body dried out in the dry climate.

If DW did kill Danielle and he was followed beginning the next day, I have a hard time believing that there would still be loose fibers that would so easily fall off her body and onto a sheet. I assume the desert does get windy and the wind would have blown most of the fibers that were there.

Another question to be asked is how did Danielle's body get to her location after the site was searched and DW was being followed and in jail? Inquiring minds want to know!

I remain unconvinced that the fibers are actually nylon, and if they are, they most likely came from a car floormat that could possibly be tied to Damon's blue van that he sold shortly after Danielles disappearance. This would also explain how 'similar fibers' ended up in DW's house if Brenda was driving Danielle around to sell GS cookies, assuming they came from the same source.

If I were Feldman, I would check to make sure the fibers weren't actually polyester, unless the prosecutor is going to claim the fibers came from the MH sheets and comforter. If Dusek makes this assertion, Feldman would be in a bit of a quandry because if the fibers are actually polyester, the prosecutor would have a much better case as it relates to the fiber evidence. Strategy-wise, maybe it is better to just not mention that the sheets/comforter could not have been nylon and if DW is convicted, to raise that fact as new evidence which would warrant a new trial. TO raise it now might give the prosecutor an opportunity to do a more detailed analysis of the fibers. The problem for the prosecutor in that case is it would look bad that they screwed up the first tests, and if the fibers are polyester, there are many, many clothes made with polyester and the fibers would match a huge number of blue fibers found in garments that surely must be in the closets of vitually every person in the United States.

Chances are excellent that DW has garments with blue/blue-grey polyester fibers. Police uniforms, if a combination of a few shades of blue/blue-grey would almost certainly have polyester fibers in some combination with possibly other fibers such as cotton or wool (remember it was winter when Danielle disappeared. If the fibers are actually polyester and Feldman can produce garments worn by DW that are made with blue polyester, especially shirts (remember that fibers were found on MH headboard); his leaning back against the headboard while watching TV or engaging in some 'adult activities' with a girlfriend would be a reasonable explanation s to why the fibers were on the headboard.