What if It's All Been a Big Fat Lie?

New York Times ^ | 9 July 2002 | GARY TAUBES

[Chemist_Geek]

The poorer you are, the more likely your fat. More than 60% of young ladies on public assistance are over weight.

I have noticed that, and also that the usual purchases of people on food assistance were of highly processed "junk" foods, rather than of raw meat and vegetables. There is a correlation, and it's heartening that here in the United States, our poorest people, the ones on welfare, are the most fed.

[onedoug]

Hmm. Fat intake, it would seem. Perhaps water rention. The second law of thermodynamics, that one can't get more out a system than one puts in, is universal. They might read the labels or fat tables of what they're eating. Beyond this, I can't speak for anyone outside my family, all of whom however, #9 and not eating red meat or pork products seems to work for.

w, ping.

[redhead]

Orange juice is a source of fructose, which is THE most fattening sugar there is. A glass of OJ contains the equivalent of about 3 average sized oranges, a shot of almost pure sugar, and around 160 grams of carbs. For the average, non-dieting person, 75 grams of carbs should be all you would want to take in a day. Fiber is not digestible by any means. Even cows, who live on it, have to regurgitate and rechew it several times. It won't hurt, but it won't help, either.

[NCLou]

Let me chime in -

80 pounds off in 5-6 months, and 6 months later its all still off. I feel great. Had about 25 chicken wings with blue cheese last night.

It's one of the best things I've ever done.

[Dead Corpse]

Yes. That is how it works. More calories than your body needs=your body storing some of that as fat.

It doesn't matter if you are eating too much protein, simple carbs, or complex carbs. You eat too much and you get fat.

[Dead Corpse]

Fiber helps keep you regular due to the fact that you can't really digest it. It just, ahem... helps push things through. Fructose is a simple sugar. Better for you than the processed junk, but still contains a lot of calories.

Once again...

Too many calories=stored fat.

End of story.

[Dead Corpse]

Dead spot on red. I shoulda read all the way down. You phrased your reply better than I did as well. ;-)

[SouthCarolinaKit]

I agree. I've been off all starch and sugar for about 10 years and have had all good readings ever since: weight,
cholesterol, lipids. Whoever said cutting red meats out
solves weight problems is probably depending on the NEA for
his health advice. One more thing we can thank them for
besides that lack of learning in our kids is the veggie
religion which is ruining their health!

[Nov3]

Fructose is a simple sugar. Better for you than the processed junk, but still contains a lot of calories.

Your name is particularly appropriate.

[Nov3]

I should have read all the way down also. You weren't saying fructose is good for you.

The calorie is a calorie is BS. I have lost weight on this diet knocking down 3000+ calories a day. Once you are in ketosis a fat gram isn't 9 calories anymore. You can't fully metabolize it without carbs. This results in incompletely burned fat also known as ketones. These are excreted in your breath, urine, and feces. You don't have to burn those calories, you excrete them.

[xJones]

To curtail this I drink a ton of water and eat salads, hard meats, celery or mushrooms dipped in ranch of course!

I thank you for your advise and apologize for my late reply. I've drank enough water to drain a third world country (ok, that's exaggerating), but I'll try it again. And I do have his book and the diet recipe book.