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Singer's remark riles Hispanics -- Greeley debates 'English' comment
Denver Post ^ | July 9, 2002 | Michael Riley

Posted on 07/09/2002 10:43:24 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan

Singer's remark riles Hispanics -- Greeley debates 'English' comment

By Michael Riley
Denver Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, July 09, 2002

A country western singer who told his audience at the Greeley Independence Stampede that immigrants should learn to speak English ignited an emotional debate in a community that has seen an influx of Hispanics over the past decade.

Warner Brothers recording star Chad Brock said Monday that his comments were meant to express his "pride in being American." But Hispanic leaders said they were racist and the failure of Stampede organizers to condemn them shows the refusal to embrace newcomers.

Brock stepped on stage Friday to belt out hits like "Lighting Does the Work," but he salted his performance with some sharp opinions.

In a speech between sets, Brock said he was tired of having to adapt to the widening influence of the country's newcomers. "You are coming to our country. We don't speak Russian. We don't speak Spanish. We speak English here," Brock told an audience of 7,000, according to the Greeley Tribune. While many Hispanics in the audience walked out, people who attended the event said many non-Hispanics cheered.

Brock, a former pro wrestler, said Monday that the comments came out of an honest patriotic fervor, inspired in part by a recent court decision declaring the phrase "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance unconstitutional.

"I'm not a racist. I wasn't directing the comments toward any particular group. I was speaking my mind as an American" during the Fourth of July holiday, Brock said.

"But I had no idea there were so many Hispanics in Greeley," he said. "I didn't mean to offend anybody."

Hispanic leaders said "offend" doesn't even begin to cover it.

"His comments were bigoted, inflammatory and hateful," said Roberto Cordova, a local college professor.

The issue goes deeper than Brock, said Jorge Amaya, director of the Northern Colorado Latino Chamber of Commerce. "The problem isn't what Brock said. The problem is that our community leaders didn't step up to condemn it."

At a news conference Monday, the Hispanic leaders demanded an apology from city officials, the event's corporate sponsors and Stampede organizers. They said this isn't the first time the Stampede has offended the city's growing Hispanic population.

Citing poor ticket sales, Stampede organizers last year canceled the fiesta section of the annual event.

Stampede marketing director Kyle Holman said organizers wanted to make the fiesta more inclusive and renamed it Family Night.

"Mr. Brock has the right of free speech just like every other American," Holman said. "But his opinion aren't necessarily the opinions of the Greeley Stampede."

But some here said they share Brock's sentiments.

According to census figures, Greeley's Hispanic population nearly doubled in the 1990s, as immigrants, many with limited English skills, took jobs in the region's meat packing plants and feedlots.

As the ethnic makeup of schools and neighborhoods shifts, some residents say they feel left out. Language has become both a divide and a flashpoint.

"If we're going to communicate, everybody needs to speak the same language," said Billie Messner, a patron at a local coffee shop.

Greeley City Manager Leonard Wiest said the city is working to accommodate newcomers.

Brock said Monday that while he's sorry if his comments offended anyone, he won't apologize.

"I had the guts to speak out, but I think a lot of people feel the same way," he said.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; englishlanguage; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; michaeldobbs; pc
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To: Tancredo Fan
There is nothing racist, sexist, or homophobic about saying that immigrants should learn to speak English.

I would certainly not be offended if I moved to France and someone said immigrants there should learn to speak French. Or moved to Italy and people said immigrants there should learn to speak Italian. Heck, If I was in such a position I'd already be doing that on my own without the need of such a reminder.

A remark like that says in effect, "Welcome to the family. Please start acting like you want to belong."

121 posted on 07/09/2002 1:35:16 PM PDT by Snuffington
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To: Doctor Stochastic
So you consider New Mexico to be an "occupied territory", hmmmm? Kinda like the "occupied territories" in Israel? Like the "Palestinian homeland"? No, you're not a Libertarian with anarchistic leanings, you're a moron.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

122 posted on 07/09/2002 1:35:22 PM PDT by wku man
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To: wku man
Please don't try to put words into my mouth. I never used the words "occupied territory." These are your words. One cannot have a discussion with someone who just makes up things as you have done.
123 posted on 07/09/2002 1:37:59 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Spanish was an official language of NM long before the current wave of illegal aliens showed up.
124 posted on 07/09/2002 1:39:27 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Funny, I remember visiting NM back in 1980, and besides the fact I noticed what a beautiful state it was, everyone I talked to spoke English, including the Indian population. I suspect with the massive wave of illegals though that has changed somewhat.
125 posted on 07/09/2002 1:42:54 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Doctor Stochastic
I hate ad hominem attacks, but I would just like to go on record as believing that Doc Stochastic is a complete ARSEHOLE!

that is all...
126 posted on 07/09/2002 1:46:27 PM PDT by subterfuge
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To: skeeter
A nation of immigrants, eh skeeter? So from which country did you immigrate?

That's kinda funny, because for an "immigrant", I can't seem to recall having been born in another country...oh, I remember! I was born right here in the US! Enid, Oklahoma to be exact. Hmmmm....so I guess I'm not an immigrant. Come to think of it, of all the people I know...family, friends, associates, clients, etc...only one of them was born outside the US. Hmmmm...I guess they're not immigrants either. Wow...since this a nation of immigrants, I must be the only guy in the country who isn't one, or who doesn't know any...

OR...maybe the United States in 2002 isn't a nation of immigrants, and those who say it is are full of BS PC crap. Hmmmm.....

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

127 posted on 07/09/2002 1:47:12 PM PDT by wku man
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To: subterfuge
The well thought reasoned Conservative Republican response, no doubt.
128 posted on 07/09/2002 1:48:54 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: Dakmar
I think it's racist to move to a new country and expect the inhabitants to adapt to the culture you bring with you. They used to call it imperialism.

That's a terrific quote!

129 posted on 07/09/2002 1:51:57 PM PDT by Snuffington
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To: subterfuge; Doctor Stochastic
And also just for the record, I love people of all races. My son in-law is Portugese (speaks great English)and I am happy to say that I have lots of friends who are minorities (although they aren't minorities where I live). Its people like Doc Spastic who only seek to divide and point out what their little pea brains percieve as racism.

I've said it before here that, just when we forget about skin color the Jesse Jacksons, Al Sharptons and Doctor Stochastics of the world remind me that us should all be fightin' and arguin'. Too bad.
130 posted on 07/09/2002 1:54:44 PM PDT by subterfuge
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To: Doctor Stochastic
"The well thought reasoned Conservative Republican response, no doubt"

The truth hurts doesn't it Doc?
131 posted on 07/09/2002 1:57:30 PM PDT by subterfuge
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To: Tancredo Fan
I like that song by Chad Brock, "Yes".

Way to go, Chad. You're telling it like it is. More people need to speak up and out and tell our officials the way it is.

These "hispanic" organizations are nothing but bigoted, themselves, for it is they who want to change the cultural and ethnic makeup of this country. It is they who want us to adapt to them in our country. Lastly, it is they who constantly berade patriotic Americans as being bigots and racists. Therefore, it is the Hispanic Organization members who either need to shut up or get out of our country.

132 posted on 07/09/2002 2:03:45 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: subterfuge
I never mentioned skin color. That seems to be your thing.
133 posted on 07/09/2002 2:05:48 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: wku man
A nation of immigrants, eh skeeter? So from which country did you immigrate?

Sorry. I left off the sarcasm tag.

134 posted on 07/09/2002 2:08:16 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Tancredo Fan
I believe that Chad Brock is a Florida Boy.
135 posted on 07/09/2002 2:10:11 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: Doctor Stochastic
"Y'all" is offensive? You all=Y'all. Duh.
136 posted on 07/09/2002 2:16:03 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: DoughtyOne
Yeah, I agree. I visited southern California in early June, and I saw vast swarms of Mexican-like areas. Much of the inner LA Basin is turning this way, as well as the eastern end of the San Fernando Valley and southern San Diego County. The inland areas of Riverside and San Bernardino are witnessing the same thing, I hear.
137 posted on 07/09/2002 2:21:10 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: FreedomFriend
The implication was that as a Southerner (actually from Texas, but south of the Hudson and west of the Mississippi was the problem) that I couldn't cut it in a Northern University. I responded by slowing down my speech during my technical presentations. Y'all know how it is.
138 posted on 07/09/2002 2:22:48 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: subterfuge
Get a grip skeety!

The only thing I need to get a grip on is my sense of humor, apparently...

139 posted on 07/09/2002 2:24:45 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: zeaal
I've seen the same thing here in the Atlanta area. I also noticed similar examples in Phoenix.

I've never seen as many Spanish-only independent television stations as I have seen in the Los Angeles area. There appeared to be six of them. If my memory serves me correct, there was roughly the same number of independent Spanish stations as there were English stations. It appears they want to assimilate (sarcasm).

On the radio dials, there are a lot of Spanish stations, too. In southern California, there are a lot on the dial. I noticed similar numbers in Phoenix, Dallas-Fort Worth and Houston.

140 posted on 07/09/2002 2:26:38 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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