Socialist Professor Responds

7/8/02 | commieprof

[mc5cents]

Excellent!! Will Ms. Commieprof respond? HA! Fergetaboutit!

[mc5cents]

You know my son went to Ithaca College (yes, in the city of evil! but only for one semester cause he hated it) and took a political science course taught by a very liberal prof. Well, my son has always been conservative, don't know why exactly, well, maybe I do since I voted for Goldwater with my very first vote, anyway he took the prof. to task on almost everything. Said at one point they were shouting at one another. He received an A. So maybe, just maybe, there are some liberals who listen and grade not according to their own world view but on merit. At least there was one that I know of. Just one.

[mc5cents]

Never again in history will a group of ethical and moral men come together to form a free government more perfect than the one we have.

Never is a long time. But in this case I believe you are right.

[Whilom]

I said on an earlier thread (same subject) that Dana Cloud was a cyberlegend, existing only in the imagination of feminazis and screenwriters. I see on your post a purported photo of Dana Cloud and still have no evidence to change my original opinion. Nobody looks like that and nobody ever earnestly wrote the drivel posted by commieprof. This is a weird, warped kind of fiction. "Israeli occupation," buried deep in commieprof's post, opens a closet to reveal where the looney left has gone -- absorbed in self-loathing and fear to equal their fear and loathing of Jews. What we have here is a movie by the Coen brothers -- and I'm waiting for the punch line.

[DainBramage]

I know, I forgot the in case someone see the obvious.

Did you see the other picture? Ha!

She teaches marxism, but Her agenda is Dikesism.

[DainBramage]

I know, I forgot the (/sarcasm) in case someone see the obvious.

Did you see the other picture? Ha!

She teaches marxism, but Her agenda is Dikesism.

[jumpstartme]

From your "Theories of Persuasion" Class Curriculum:

"This course is an introduction to persuasion in its various contexts, from political campaigns to advertising campaigns, from the President of the United States to popular music, from the nightly news to used car sales. The goal of this course is to encourage you to receive persuasive messages with an analytical and critical mindset. This is a receiver-oriented class. This means we will be taking apart persuasive messages in order to better understand how influence is wielded in everyday communication settings like interpersonal relationships, television news, popular culture, and political speech.

We will be dealing with some controversial and sensitive political issues such as news coverage of the Gulf War, persuasion about the Holocaust, abortion rhetoric, and contemporary race relations. Our purpose is not to come to conclusions about where to stand in these cases. Instead, let's look at how each public event we study is put together, arranged and structured for popular consumption. We must ask ourselves what we are being asked to do, to believe, and to value by the texts we encounter every day, and how messages are structured to get us to come to those beliefs and values."

Sounds like back to the classroom for you.

[BADROTOFINGER]

I beg to differ with you with regard to my intelligence but think what you like if it makes you feel better when being challenged with new ideas and information.

I also think that it was very courageous of you to post here. Most of the time liberals/socialists/communists just come in here, get confronted with the facts, then call names and run away. But to get to my point...

You mention your challenge of "new ideas and information". But your ideas are nothing new. Communism was responsible for the slaughter of 100 million people over the last century. It does not work, Maoist, Trotskyist, whateverist, it is a system that fails every time it is tried, except for bees and ants, which another FReeper has already stated. You claim your compassion and admiration for the common man. Do you really wish to show this compassion and admiration by treating human beings like insects? Your predecessors have done exactly that, and their kill rates rival those of chemical insecticides that we use in our homes and gardens against insects.

Just wondering...JFK

[Dan Day]

Resources aren't scarce. There is enough food produced every year to feed everyone 54 times over--most of it is dumped in the ocean because it wouldn't get a profit on the market. That's our system's sick set of priorities.

I really must, like several other participants in this thread, insist that you provide support for this amazing assertion...

[dennisw]

This is a weird, warped kind of fiction. "Israeli occupation," buried deep in commieprof's post, opens a closet to reveal where the looney left has gone -- absorbed in self- loathing and fear to equal their fear and loathing of Jews.
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She must mention Israel and the "occupation" otherwise she loses standing with her fellow leftists. Self righteous posturing is the key to success in leftist circles in the universities. This is why she mentions she is a Trotskyite, as if this has any meaning at all to 99.99% of Americans.

[OOPisforLiberals]

Hi all. Long time lurker, first time poster.

I found myself compelled to register because of the sheer brilliance of this post. It is at once _exactly_ right on the money (no pun intended) and scathingly funny. Sadly our socialist friend is very likely unable to see the humor and is right this very moment urgently resisting the temptation to pull the race card for reasons she can't quite grasp. It is briliantly illustrative of the core, underlying, overwhelming flaws in liberal philosophy - the same flaws that leave me slack jawed and shaking my head the more they are brought to light.

This is exactly the part of FR that I love. Razor sharp witty insight. Good show!

[Fzob]

For those that may be interested.

The Trotskyist Manifesto

Snip......

In vast areas of the planet capitalism has been overthrown, whilst to preserve it elsewhere has cost the lives of tens and even hundreds of millions in localised and world wars; famine continues to claim countless victims in a world where food "surpluses" are burned.

This testifies to the fact that capitalism has long passed from the early phase of its development, when it was a relatively progressive system, to its terminal phase when it has become absolutely reactionary--in short to the epoch in which its death agony takes place.

The question that faces humanity is whether imperialism will drag all classes into a common ruin or whether the working class can lead the exploited and oppressed into a new social order; one where democratically planned production for need based upon common ownership opens up the prospect of a classless, stateless world. The objective pre-requisites for this have long existed: technology, science, the means of production and a multi-millioned world proletariat.

Twice this century, in 1914-23 and 1939-47, capitalism has been thrown into such acute worldwide convulsions that it stared death in the face. Twice, its own rivalries and contradictions have raised up the spectre of its global defeat at the hands of the proletariat. On countless other occasions the proletariat of individual countries has sought to settle accounts decisively with its exploiters.

But, as yet, it has not found, or been able to preserve, a leadership capable of completing the task of the world revolution. Before 1914 the Socialist International did assemble a mass-based world movement of the working class, but this suffered degeneration and betrayal before it could create the centralised leadership necessary for victory in the approaching revolutionary crises.

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I'll bet hopes were high when Slick Willy won in 92

[Little Bill]

His vision of a bottom-up, democratic socialism..

I haven't read anything by or about Trotsky that would convince me that there is much difference between him and Stalin, shades of red so to speak.

If he had taken power he might have killed marginally fewer people, but judging from his proformance during the Russian Civil War, not many.

[Conservative Chicagoan]

So you also admit to being a feminist? Have you no shame?

[Conservative Chicagoan]

BUMP! All communists are scum!

[Conservative Chicagoan]

Exactly. This is something that many FReepers don't understand. Bush is fighting against the tide of communism that Clinton and Cloud have worked so hard for.

[Conservative Chicagoan]

LOL!

[Conservative Chicagoan]

BUMP

[Conservative Chicagoan]

She is an idiot!

[Conservative Chicagoan]

BUMP!