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To: Sabertooth
I'll go back to front. I'm mocking the "Bush can do no wrong" crowd.

It is a vital effort nonetheless. Why mock those who share the same goal?

Tell me... how do you feel about Amnestied Illegals,

We've had enough discussions for you to know I believe the same as you, here.

If he caim out strongly against Illegals and Amnesties of all kinds, it would be a different story.

Agreed, that history would wipe out any "pandering" claim, however, maybe your message has gotten there through whatever means amd settling for second best, with an unassailable logic, is what's at work here. Neither you nor I can know this, despite past history.

You've got a lot of great points on this issue but your continued insistence on "mocking" those who support Bush, sometimes weakens your position, IMHO.

I don't support him on everything either, but the war here is real and dangerous, as you have aptly characterized this one issue. If we are to lose the whole, over divisions on a few, it could be tragic.

103 posted on 07/08/2002 7:46:34 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Bob, you can't blame those of us that are confounded by Bush's lack of desire to get our legal and illegal immigration house in order for being a little less than enthusiastic about this President having a Republican controlled House and Senate.

There's a majority of Americans that want illegal immigration stopped, deportations started immediately, employers prosecuted, legal immigration reduced to 250,000 to 300,000 yearly and the fast-track visa programs eliminated, etc., etc..

What happened the last time Bush tried every dirty, sneaky, underhanded, behind-our-backs, political trick, in-the-book to push his 245i extension through?

It squeeked through the Republican controlled House and would have made it through, IMHO, a Republican controlled Senate.

It's Bush's fault we're conflicted on your stated goal of a Republican controlled Senate. It's Bush's fault we question, if really want to give a RINO President that kind of power.

As I just wrote to another Freeper, re-read the last 120 years of Republican Party, platform planks on immigration and then the Libertarian Party's immigration platform plank.

Tell me, IYO, which one Bush is following.

Tell me why there's an anti-deportation Libertarian in charge of the INS and a Hispanic, illegal immigration advocate working as the chief border patrol agent in Arizona?

You talk as if anyone that isn't over-joyed at the prospect of a Republican controlled House and Senate is betraying the Republican Party.

I believe we would be over-joyed at that prospect, if we had a truly Republican President.

I shudder to think what our nation's December will be like, if this President and Mexico's Vicente Fox have their way on immigration.

104 posted on 07/09/2002 6:33:36 AM PDT by 4Freedom
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