Trouble brewing in Florida's swamps: Henry Lamb explains why property owners are fighting mad

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Sunday, July 7, 2002 | Henry Lamb

[summer]

Budge, Thanks for sharing your experience here. I am not saying, by any means, that enviro-nazis as they are referred to sometimes here, are always in the right. I'm not sure why you didn't have hurricane insurance and instead had to rebuild out of your own pocket, but, that is one way FL is different, and people here know they have to get hurricane and floos insurance. As to your comment here:

The same thing happened in Kalmath Falls, now Florida,

I strongly disagree. IMO, there is much more balance, in large part because we do have a governor who is able to see both sides of the issue. There seems to be some people determined to make it appear otherwise, but, I have been following these matters, and that is just not the way it is in Florida.

True, some highly deserving and well meaning people unfortunately lack the luck or knowledge and make lousy decisions when they buy or sell FL property, but that happens everywhere. You can't scream "enviro nazis" or "private development" just because you did not make a killing in FL real estate like some people are doing at this moment. I realize what happened in your case is different.

Thanks again for your post.

[summer]

BTW, I still own the mineral rights to this property, a rarity nowadays.

Not a rarity in FL - there are still private owners of mineral property rights.

[summer]

floos = flood

[summer]

Below is an interesting excerpt from a paper written by a scientist and an environmental planner: (click HERE.).

I have seen this same info elsewhere, showing FL has a high percentage of private ownership of its land, so I don't know where Henry Lamb (author of the posted article by JH2) is justified in complaining there is barely any more private ownership in FL:

A comparison of forestland ownership patterns with the southern U.S. states and neighboring British Columbia, Canada demonstrates the significance of these processes in shaping the contemporary mosaic of forestland ownership in Washington. The dominant commercial forest land owners in Washington are the Forest Service (31 percent) and the forest products industry (25.9 percent) with the remaining 43.1 percent divided between the State, other public sector owners, and non-industrial private owners (Waggener, 1990). In the southern U.S., 90.7 percent of the region's commercial forest lands are privately owned, with 70 percent owned by non-industrial private owners, such as farmers, institutions, and firms not involved in the wood products industry (Anderson and Olson, 1991; Waggener, 1990). This pattern is almost reversed in British Columbia where 97 percent of commercial forestlands are owned by the Provincial government (Waggener, 1990).

[Budge]

Thanks for your kind reply, Summer.

I'm not sure why you didn't have hurricane insurance and instead had to rebuild out of your own pocket...

Let me explain. Back in those days we actually did have hurricane insurance, but there were clauses that precluded 'rising water.' We really didn't need rising water coverage because the houses, while beachfront, were far enough away from storm tides that the only damage prior to Carla was adding sand to the property. However, McFaddin's Pass, as it is called, caused the rapid erosion of the beach. By this time, 'rising water' costs had sky-rocketed so we simply couldn't afford it.

Understand also that I'm not knocking Jeb Bush. My contention is with little bureaucrats hundred or thousands of miles away who only think they know better than the locals who have the experience and knowledge to not "poop in their own beds," so to speak.

I wish I had the wordpower and knowledge to explain just how communistic the so-called "environmentalists" have become.

They erroneously assume property owners care nothing about their property, the preservation of it, or respect for the creatures that live on or near it. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Obviously, I cannot speak for the property owners in Florida, just as I couldn't for the Klamath Falls farmers when enviro-nazis cut off their water supply. But I could see the injustice of outsiders dictating how and what property owners do with their property. Just as I resent the enviro-nazis telling me I can no longer build on my property because I may damage it!

My family did more to protect and save our property and the creatures on it than the mindless bureaucrats think they do.

I realize what happened in your case is different.

True. However it is the same group of people telling the Florida property owners how and what they can do with their own property.

[summer]

My contention is with little bureaucrats hundred or thousands of miles away who only think they know better than the locals who have the experience and knowledge to not "poop in their own beds," so to speak.

I wish I had the wordpower and knowledge to explain just how communistic the so-called "environmentalists" have become.

They erroneously assume property owners care nothing about their property, the preservation of it, or respect for the creatures that live on or near it. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Budge, Thanks for your thoughtful and informative reply. I agree with what you said above. In FL, the Rural Land Protection Act (protecting PRIVATE property owners) was actually heavily supported by both the private proerty owners and the environmentalists, which newspapers noted was a unique collaborative effort. More such efforts -- of working together -- would do much to help the environmentalists who are not nazis gain a better reputation, and believe me, I am always sympathetic to private property owners. [I have my own horror story I could tell about what I know was the theft of my own private property, and to think about it, though it happened awhile ago, makes me ill even today.] Thanks again for your post. :)

[Budge]

...I don't know where Henry Lamb (author of the posted article by JH2) is justified in complaining there is barely any more private ownership in FL...

I read between the lines on Lamb's comments about the "lack of private ownership."

Certainly there is "private ownersip," and a lot of it throughout the United States.

However, I cite my own experience in this that you have so kindly responded to.

[summer]

And, I appreciate your info, Budge. BTW, I also appreciate Carry_Okie's info, but, I have to part ways with him if he thinks Central Park should be privitized. I can't go along with that. Sorry, Carry! :)

[summer]

Of course I meant: privatized

[Budge]

I have my own horror story I could tell about what I know was the theft of my own private property,...

I wish you would share that with us, Summer!

No, my whole point is enviro-nazis want to control private property.

As I stated, we, the property owners in that community, did much more to protect the environment than the bureaucrats many miles away did. Yet we were call "the destroyers!"

[Budge]

Of course I meant: privatized

You worry too much about spelling, Summer. =o) I knew what you meant. =o)

[summer]

LOL... thanks. :)

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I wish you would share that with us, Summer!

I would like to write a book about that someday. A la Animal Farm, but it would take place in NY, where the government has a VERY heavy hand controlling private property. And, not suprisinigly, corruption ABOUNDS...

[summer]

suprisinigly, = surprisingly

(BTW, it's not my spelling; it's my typing!) And here's why: I once had a great job, outside of education, where my terrific boss told me, truthfully: DON'T learn to type, because otherwise you'll NEVER get promoted! (You'll be stuck as an admin assistant forever) So, I didn't learn to type -- and, I got the promotion! :)

However, I am thinking, now, I SHOULD learn how to type! :)

[Budge]

I would like to write a book about that someday. A la Animal Farm, but it would take place in NY, where the government has a VERY heavy hand controlling private property. And, not suprisinigly, corruption ABOUNDS...

(Sorry for the delay, had to go shopping.)

You just said the magic word, corruption. Once upon a time we, the private property owners were the environmentalists. Then organizations started popping up that promoted basically the same things we cared about. But corruption crept in and those once sane organizations took it too far.

Just like the anti-smokers who "only wanted an area set aside in resturants where people wouldn't smoke." Look what a monster that has turned into.

This is why I and many others call them "enviro-nazis." They want total control of everyone elses property.

What does control equate to? Power!

[summer]

Hey! Power to the PEOPLE! :)

[Tailgunner Joe]

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[Tailgunner Joe]

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