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Trouble brewing in Florida's swamps: Henry Lamb explains why property owners are fighting mad
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| Sunday, July 7, 2002
| Henry Lamb
Posted on 07/07/2002 12:42:50 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: jaq
If overdevelopment is your concern,
My concern is for a balanced situation, with growth and the environment protected, and in FL that is what we have had under Gov. Bush. FL is soon to overtake NY as the 3rd largest state in terms of population. The idea that some promote on this forum, that all private property in FL is being snatched, is just plain nonsense.
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posted on
07/07/2002 6:48:16 AM PDT
by
summer
To: jaq
And, as I have posted before, but will not bother to do so again, because the people who insist the govt is taking all private property ini FL are just a bit too loooney and one-sided for me, Gov. Bush has passed a law specifically to protect rural land owners and others. He is not heavy handed in govt taking of property, not by any stretch of the imagination.
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posted on
07/07/2002 6:49:48 AM PDT
by
summer
To: wingnuts'nbolts
The Everglades is a river. It needs to be protected. Why can't it be done without grabbing private lands, Because the core of, or goal of environmentalism isn't protection, it's control. The sooner everyone accepts that the sooner we can deal with them. Oh, and everyone in politics, including the Bush's know that too.
To: summer
It's the same old story. The evil developers are raping the land. Sorry you and your boss Jeb fell for it.
Thank goodness they weren't raping the land when your house/community was built there in Florida though huh...Too bad there weren't people like you, Jeb, Clinton and billions of taxpayer dollars to stop them then huh.
To: lewislynn
There IS such a thing as conservation which is NOT private land grabbing by the government. Cleaning up the Everglades is just one example, and the Bush brothers get lots of credit for that. And, believe me, they will also win lots of FL votes for it too. But, I guess they could be like you and try to ignore FL's environment -- yet, to do so would also damage their shelf-life as public servants and political leaders in this state. You need to realize THAT.
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posted on
07/07/2002 8:24:15 AM PDT
by
summer
To: lewislynn
It's the same old story. The evil developers are raping the land. Sorry you and your boss Jeb fell for it.
You sound like you are unaware the "evil developers" include some of his strongest supporters. Try reading the article I linked to in my earlier post, though I know you people who want to terrorize everyone about govt land grabs have little use for any facts different than your own.
As I said to someone else, Gov Bush has both kept his support from private developers, who are so financially loaded they could easily go create and support another candidate for gov; and, Gov Bush has maintained a positive relatiosnhip with environmentalists and others in this state, to the point where he has been awarded twice for his environmental leadership. Not an easy tightrope to walk, but he does an outstanding job as governor with these two competing groups.
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posted on
07/07/2002 8:27:51 AM PDT
by
summer
To: lewislynn
Sorry you and your boss Jeb fell for it.
Gov Bush is not my boss; he is the governor of this state. Facts never get your way, do they?
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posted on
07/07/2002 8:28:32 AM PDT
by
summer
To: lewislynn
Sorry you and your boss Jeb fell for it.
Gov Bush is not my boss; he is the governor of this state. Facts never get in your way, do they?
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posted on
07/07/2002 8:28:44 AM PDT
by
summer
To: JohnHuang2
The plan is to force the peasants into large urban areas, where access in and out can be controlled.
Meanwhile, the elites will have their thousand-acre lots alongside whatever "protected environment area" they choose.
And those tyrants will cut down as many trees and clear as much land as needed to build their 20,000 square foot palaces.
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posted on
07/07/2002 8:29:16 AM PDT
by
Mulder
To: lewislynn
BTW, I do realize there have been land grabs elsewhere in this country, but why the sudden, constant and inaccurate focus by Henry Lamb on FL, during this gov race, is beyond me.
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posted on
07/07/2002 8:30:08 AM PDT
by
summer
To: Mulder
Not so in FL, where Gov Bush signed a new law specifically protecting the private property rights of RURAL land owners and others.
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posted on
07/07/2002 8:30:52 AM PDT
by
summer
To: lewislynn; jaq
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posted on
07/07/2002 8:49:24 AM PDT
by
summer
To: lewislynn
I know that what you say is true, buut , and I am no greenie, preserving the river is important. Are you a Floridian? I promise I won't pull any dumb PBC jokes on you.
To: lewislynn; jaq
Gov. Jeb Bush, explaining why he would not approve a certain bill, and instead, used his veto power:
The use of eminent domain authority is one of the most harsh proceedings known therefore the justification for expanding the scope of existing eminent domain authority must be proven to be essential, not just convenient or economical. For reasons provided above and out of concern over the precedent this bill might set, I am withholding my approval of Committee Substitute for Senate Bill 1230, and do hereby veto the same....Jeb Bush, Governor
To read the entire letter from Gov Bush, click
HERE.
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posted on
07/07/2002 8:59:11 AM PDT
by
summer
To: summer
Sorry summer. I can see you are NOT a property owner near the Glades, nor have seen first hand what goes on with these psycho enviro-orgs where I live.
You're right when you say the Government isn't taking everyone's land now, but they could if they wanted to and they're using our tax money to slowly strangle the life out of our property rights.
This bullshit was sold to the public to protect furry and feathered creatures from extinction. Then hundreds of abstract species of animals and plants were added. Now, in my area, if you have any one of 8 different types of soil on your property it can be declared a "wetlands (which is literally any property anywhere). This is pure insanity.
Our "compassionate" politians give these sicko eviral orgs millions of our tax dollars to wage war on us. They ruined a developer in my area just to settle a score, using MY money to continually sue him for one frivolous issue after the next. Finally a judge who was wise to these freaks ways ordered them to post a 2 million dollar bond if they wanted to go after him again. Unfortunately it was too late and the guy declared bankruptcy, only to sell out to another developer (Bonita Bay) who continued with the project.
I realize that most of what you do around here is about propping up Governor Bush but this government/enviro partnership is dangerous and destructive. The Nature Conservancy and World Wildlife Fund are rancid political fronts and we're their enemy. They are not to be made friends with, they're to be stomped out of existence. They shouldn't be receiving millions of our money so that State and Federal executives can appear compassionate.
BTW, the "we need to spend gazillions funding envirals because it's good for tourism" is a huge horseflop, propaganda myth, created in the offices of political advisors designed for public consumption. None of what we're doing now is doing a damn thing for the environment or the tourism industry.
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posted on
07/07/2002 9:02:15 AM PDT
by
AAABEST
To: lewislynn; jaq; JohnHuang2
From the
Private Lands Organization, here is info on the new law signed by Gov Bush protecting private property rights of rural land owners in FL -- click:
HERE.
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posted on
07/07/2002 9:02:53 AM PDT
by
summer
To: Grampa Dave
I think I need to borrow that chainsaw of yours .... the big one.
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posted on
07/07/2002 9:03:01 AM PDT
by
AAABEST
To: AAABEST
AAABEST, No, I do not own land out there in Golden Gate, but, good grief, everyone who bought land out there could have figured out it was a swamp if they had opened their eyes and looked at it.
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posted on
07/07/2002 9:03:59 AM PDT
by
summer
To: summer
Not so in FL, where Gov Bush signed a new law specifically protecting the private property rights of RURAL land owners and others. It would be interesting to see the particulars of that little scam. Is there some specific reason Jeb decided to protect private property rights of ONLY "RURAL" land owners?....By protecting their "rights" does the bill also protect the neighbors from their neighbors developing THEIR land...if you know what I mean?
To: AAABEST
only to sell out to another developer (Bonita Bay) who continued with the project.
The last time I drove by Bonita Bay they looked like they were doing just fine. They are making so much money they can barely fit in all into their truckloads on their way to the banks.
I realize that most of what you do around here is about propping up Governor Bush but this government/enviro partnership is dangerous and destructive.
As a teacher I take some offense to that, because I actually try to provide factual information about his record, as so few people seem to actually know anything about it (and, I myself am always learning too).
If there is some big issue I am missing, then you should write to him about it and tell him, AAABEST. Seriously. Here is his email address: jeb@jeb.org He reads his own email.
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posted on
07/07/2002 9:07:11 AM PDT
by
summer
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