U.S. to Vaccinate 500,000 Workers Against Smallpox

New York Times ^ | 7/06/02 | WILLIAM J. BROAD

[2sheep]

>So how do private citizens get this vaccine ??

Probably forced upon them against their will.  Many know that W.H.O. injected Africa with AIDS in smallpox vaccine.  Check google.  You don't really believe that the gov't is here to help you, did you? Look up Population Control and Thomas Mathus as well.  Consider the Fifth Seal.

[the crow]

I completely agree. This post not only shows a COMPLETE reversal in the policy of gov.org, it contradicts what they have been telling us [and many have been doubting] for months. This is absolutely huge news.

As I had no direct input but significant interest, I have been keeping an eye on this post waiting for the Insightful Ones to comment. I am shocked at the lack of response this post has received.

Posts about the weasel limo driver are receiving 200 to 1000+, and this has 18?!? If this crowd does not appreciate the [not too subtle] fine points brought up in this article then I am afraid we are in very deep doo doo.

I suggest the should be posted in Breaking News.

BTTT

[niki]

bump

[the crow]

Great One:

I certainly did not mean to ignore your input in my previous post. Your comments are MOST welcome and appreciated, I can assure you.

If you have a bump list on this topic, please add me to it. If not, maybe you should start one.

Many thanks.

crow

[2sheep]

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[caa26]

This is serious. If my understanding of the smallpox vaccine is correct, a small percentage of the 500,000 people will die from the vaccine. There has to be hard intelligence driving this policy. The next couple of years may contain greater surprises than 9/11.

[Mitchell]

Maybe this explains the camelpox reports.

As for our course of action with respect to Iraq, there are other possibilities than a simple massive attack. For example, envision an assassination of Saddam Hussein, accompanied by an unequivocal explanation to his potential successors that any use of smallpox will result in a nuclear response from us. This would require military action also in order to be a convincing threat; I don't know exactly what would be needed, but it would have to be severe enough to convince them that we were serious. (Words alone would not do it.)

[wingnuts'nbolts]

You can rest assured that Congress, those brave leaders, will be vaccinated, lest we lose one or two of them, aawwww, that would be tragic! With vaccinations and the 25,000 new gas masks available to them,(not us, just them) they'll be safe as bugs in a rug! Good, I wouldn't want to worry!

[wingnuts'nbolts]

I thnk you're gonna be surprised!

[The Great Satan]

We shall see, but I can't count the number of times over the past nine months I've seen people on this forum get all excited over the latest report of ME troop movements, procurement of bases, the leaked battle plans, etc. For most of that time, I've been telling people not to get their hopes up. The fact is, if we were to try to remove Saddam today, we would likely take millions of civilian casualties from his sleeper attacks, and any of our cities that rely on underground mass transit -- New York, Washington, London, Paris, etc. -- would be reduced to uninhabitable waste ground. That's just with Dashle anthrax, hand-delivered by 9-11-style sleepers. If he has smallpox too, that would be the tip of the iceberg. I think within a couple of years, with the efforts now underway, we might be in a position to gamble on it. But, if has genetically-engineered stuff, we should figure on losing about a third of the US population -- probably a higher fraction in densely-populated Europe -- before we finally get rid of this guy. There's no getting it around: biologicals + suicide bombers will trump nukes every time. Saddam would not have pulled something as audacious as 9-11 without some very good insurance. He's not suicidal.

[The Great Satan]

For example, envision an assassination of Saddam Hussein, accompanied by an unequivocal explanation to his potential successors that any use of smallpox will result in a nuclear response from us. This would require military action also in order to be a convincing threat; I don't know exactly what would be needed, but it would have to be severe enough to convince them that we were serious. (Words alone would not do it.)

That's the beauty of teaming up with al-Qaeda, from Saddam's point of view. There are guys sitting here right now who are just itching to get the combination to that locker in Grand Central Station, so they can get there 72 virgins. They are not going to be intimidated. They want to bring it on, and only Saddam is holding them back.

[STD]

This is because Al Gore and Victor Chernomrydin conducted hidden arms sales to Iran. What we are finding out is that the Soviet bioweapons program, which featured smallpox laden refrigerated blister packs on ICBMS as late as 1989, has sold the Iranians the awesome terror weapon.

The genetically altered and potency enhanced smallpox agent was directed to the Iranian terrorist state, by the corrupt cash hungry Boris Yeltsin PM Chernomyrdin who wanted to make sure other deadly conventional weapon system purchases were completed.

"The Russians sold the Iranians the smallpox bioweapons almost as an afterthought. The Russians are literally swimming in the stuff! Appoximately 50 metric tons of smallpox agent are just laying around the former Soviet Union. The smallpox was just an added bonus, thrown in as a deal sweetener." The Iranian regime said that it needed the agent to supress the ethnic Kurdish population.

Now the agent has been smuggled around the globe by Al-Queda operatives and poses a potent terrorist threat to the entire world. The Iranians desparately want plausable deniability. That's the only holdup in the use of smallpox.

Evidence the abrupt about face in the Bush Administration. Immunization causes 15 cases per 100,000 innoculations. Vaccination will be conducted using an innoculum that has been diluted and cannot be relied upon to confer immunity in it's recipients. This can only be discribed as full blown panic in Washington DC.

Wide awake now?

Peace,

DrMike

[STD]

Consider that our recently deceased Limo driver sent his family back to Egypt with one way tickets. After struggling to stay in the USA for 13 years and winning the immigration lottery. When foreign islamic agents start sending their families back to the Turd World we had better start throwing some missles! I'm convinced you are correct Fred.

Agape,

DrMike

[Don Joe]

"So how do private citizens get this vaccine ??"

Spend some quality time with a doctor, nurse, paramedic or whatnot who's gotten a dose. Wait for it to take hold, then hang around long enough to catch it yourself. Repeat the process with your friends and relatives.

[Don Joe]

"What do you think about colloidal silver and echinacea as preventitive measures?"

"No idea. Sounds a bit unlikely to me.

"Cipro and doxycycline are the treatments of choice for a wide range of bacteriological agents. I stocked up months ago. Antibiotics won't do a thing against smallpox, of course. I highly recommend Lawrence J. Joyce's book How to Survive a Germ Warfare Attack for more info."

What does he say about colloidal silver on page 44?

I'm skeptical of a fifteen buck email book written by a lawyer.

[Caipirabob]

Here ya go...

[Movemout]

"There has to be hard intelligence driving this policy"

Hard intelligence is most often a bunch of caca. Intelligence is most often evaluated in terms of percentages of likelihood. Vaccinating the first responders is not a bad strategy. Vaccinating everyone is an even better strategy but because of the adverse reactions to the vaccinations, in some known small percentage, of an extremely large population it is not politically a viable solution. And that is what we are reduced to these days, politically viable solutions. Those of us who received vaccinations many years ago have some chance, depending on whose studies you believe, but those who have never been vaccinated will suffer the worst consequences if these idiots ever get their hands on smallpox. It is counter-intuitive that anyone would unleash a disease that will kill their own but it seems that counterintuition is a good way to deal with terrorists.

[aristeides]

What is politically unacceptable about the few deaths that would result from mass voluntary vaccination? I understand there is some miniscule risk of a person just vaccinated infecting another person, who just might happen to be one of those with a compromised immune system. But virtually all if not all of the few deaths that would result (one death in a million with the old vaccine) would be of people who had chosen to take the risk. What would be unacceptable about that?

[Movemout]

From a political point of view, any death that resulted from administration of the vaccine would be laid at the doorstep of those politicos who endorsed that policy. If a smallpox attack never materialized then all of those who died, particularly women and children, would be used as a club upon the head of the policy supporters. This is the weak kneed approach to reality that exists today.

[Jim Noble]

Here's a very good, pre-9/11 smallpox review, written by the policymakers before they were policymakers.