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What Muslims must do
Boston Globe ^ | 7/6/2002 | Abdul Cader Asmal

Posted on 07/06/2002 9:32:32 AM PDT by a_Turk

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:07:56 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

SEPT. 11 WAS a wake-up call - for Americans to take up arms against terrorism and for Muslims to ask who speaks for them.

The concept for Americans was simple - to identify and neutralize the enemy. The strategy for Muslims has been anything but easy. Paralyzed into inaction by competing emotions of shame and outrage, humiliation and resentment, they have yet to deliver a cohesive response to invidious questions about their religion.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: islam; terror; usa
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To: Mortimer Snavely
Maybe if you nuked our neighbors you could get a bunch of us running from the fallout :^D
101 posted on 07/07/2002 11:40:46 AM PDT by a_Turk
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To: a_Turk
Nukes? Nah...

During the Gulf War I was having a routine blast at Kendamci, which was a great restaurant under the Galata Bridge, may it rest in peace, and over many beers we all came to the conclusion that the best way to get rid of Iraq would be to surround it with the enlisted men of the armed forces of every nation with a beef against it, have the biggest beer party in world history, and order all urinate over the Iraqi border whenever the urge struck, thus pi$$ing the entire nation away.

102 posted on 07/07/2002 11:52:06 AM PDT by Mortimer Snavely
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To: Mortimer Snavely
LOL!
103 posted on 07/07/2002 12:00:01 PM PDT by a_Turk
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To: a_Turk
You may want to check out this story from the Canadian National Post.
104 posted on 07/07/2002 4:21:54 PM PDT by beckett
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To: a_Turk
If I was outvoted, who cast the ballots?

There aren't enough muslims in America (thank God) to outvote any of us. If you read the story I posted MARCO MAN CHARGED WITH RAPE can you understand who he was emulating? The raping of innocent children is apparently a part of muslim culture and exemplifies Mohammed.

One important thing I have noticed about muslims in the past twenty years is that the men are pompous, strutting, self-deluded fops.

105 posted on 07/08/2002 4:25:11 AM PDT by elcaudillo
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To: elcaudillo
I wrote the NaplesNews an email back then, for what it's worth..

The raping of children, innocent or not, is not part of Islam as it is not part of Catholicism.

I watched an USA made documentary on rape once. As far as "emulation," the documentary described from a medical point of view the reasons for that sick behavior.

You are outvoted by the folks on this forum. I have many many friends here, only one or two of them Muslim. Hope you can understand one day that the war on terror is also waged, and has been waged for many decades by a Muslim country called Turkey. The war on terror is not a war on religion. You and I are on the same side in this war, a fact that Usame would like to change.
106 posted on 07/08/2002 9:44:07 AM PDT by a_Turk
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To: a_Turk
Twice you have stated on this thread that I have been outvoted.

To a person who wrote such an impassioned letter to the Naples Daily News, I say a muslim is a muslim is a muslim! Mohammed, to truly thinking people, was inherently evil. He inspired the butchery of non-muslims and sexually using little girls. His harem included girls under the age of 12 and he had intercourse with these children.

An interesting study is the history of the Spanish people under the muslim yoke!

I will not waver in my belief that all muslims must be deported or interred in this nation and any newcomers from muslim nations MUST be denied entry.

Muslems "martyred" as those assassins of 9-11 were, according to the teachings of Mohammed, fully expected to ascend into "heaven" and receive 40 (or so) virgins as a reward. This is so unacceptable to decent Judeo-Christian humans that it cries to heaven for vengeance. Was the muslim in Marco Island getting his reward before martyring himself?

In your muslim mind you may think that I am outvoted in my own nation, but it is you, Turk, that finds himself in the wrong province.

107 posted on 07/08/2002 11:19:38 AM PDT by elcaudillo
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To: elcaudillo
Well, you're free to think what you will, but why not poll the FReepers and find out who'd like me to be deported? Go ahead, I challenge you.
108 posted on 07/08/2002 11:21:47 AM PDT by a_Turk
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To: a_Turk
The last sentence of post number 105 is my response to you.
109 posted on 07/08/2002 11:27:40 AM PDT by elcaudillo
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To: a_Turk
Ya got my vote.
110 posted on 07/08/2002 11:30:43 AM PDT by freeforall
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To: elcaudillo
Yes and it's my pompous Muslim Turkish NATO pilot comrades who fly sorties over the USA to protect you, my ally of 50 years. And it's my Muslim Turkish Generals who are in Tampa working hand in hand with the US government to plan and coordinate the war on terror.

It is you who is conceited. Never the less I am your friend, and will perhaps one day come to your aid, even if you now have another outburst of emotion. It is not your fault that you are so ignorant.

Take care.
111 posted on 07/08/2002 11:42:25 AM PDT by a_Turk
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To: a_Turk
It is not your fault that you are so ignorant.

I'll match my PhD against yours any day and having muslim allies may make some sleep comfortably at night with visions of muslims dancing gleefully in Turkish streets to celebrate the carnage caused suicide missions that cost over 3,000 American lives.

These were actions of allies?

What a nightmare!

Deny, if you dare, that these celebrations took place after the NYC carnage.

112 posted on 07/08/2002 11:51:36 AM PDT by elcaudillo
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To: elcaudillo
I am not aware of any celebrations in Turkish streets. Prove it PhD!

pathetic.

Pretty sad that one could be educated along vertical lines and be so ignorant at the same time. I suppose if it's possible in the USA, it must be even more likely that it could be the case elsewhere.... Friend.
113 posted on 07/08/2002 12:01:24 PM PDT by a_Turk
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To: dirtboy
Classic propaganda technique. Slip in the subjective statement, a muddied lie, to deflect from the real issue.

Another example: He says that Islam is diverse with no distinct leader or hierarchy and that this is why no Muslim groups condemned 9-11. But Christianity and Judaism also lack distinct leaders and leadership hierarchies. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of independent sects in those religions. However, when a Christian or a Jew commits an act that is antithetical to those religions, there is no end of spokesmen for these many groups who are willing to condemn the crimes of the "deviants". There was no such response from the equally diverse Islamic world post 9-11.

This author is making excuses for Islamic violence; no less than those he claims need to formulate a response to the West's charges that Islam is inherently violent.

114 posted on 07/08/2002 12:19:13 PM PDT by Redcloak
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To: a_Turk
After considerable thought and research I have decided that my behaviour towards you on this thread was (to put it mildly) unkind. With hat in hand, I apologize. There is a difference between Turkish Muslims and all others.
115 posted on 07/08/2002 12:27:14 PM PDT by elcaudillo
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To: elcaudillo
Don't sweat it. We'll win this thing together.

If you run into others who are misinformed, or just don't know, please direct them to me.

Thanks.
116 posted on 07/08/2002 12:29:58 PM PDT by a_Turk
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To: 4ourprogeny
What Muslims must do Leave the USA or else.
Or else what?

-Eric

117 posted on 07/08/2002 12:38:15 PM PDT by E Rocc
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To: beckett
McViegh (the "i" comes before the "e") was not religious at all, let alone Christian!
Eric Rudolph claims not only to be a Christian but to have acted in God's name. The same with Clayton Lee Waagoner. Neal Horsely celebrates and advocates terrorism, and Fred Phelps gloated over September 11th. Both claim to be acting as Christians and doing "God's work".

No one can logically claim they represent all Christians. To claim that Al-Qaeda represents all Moslems is just as foolish.

-Eric

118 posted on 07/08/2002 12:44:42 PM PDT by E Rocc
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To: elcaudillo
An interesting study is the history of the Spanish people under the muslim yoke!
They were so much better off under the Inquisiton.[/src]

-Eric

119 posted on 07/08/2002 12:48:39 PM PDT by E Rocc
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To: Redcloak
Another example: He says that Islam is diverse with no distinct leader or hierarchy and that this is why no Muslim groups condemned 9-11.
Many did. CAIR condemned it the day it happened. The imam of the biggest mosque in Cleveland was participating in memorials with Bishop Pilla and others almost immediately.

If you choose to believe they were insincere, that's your opinion. I consider it unsubstantiated. That's mine.

But it's incorrect to say the condemnations weren't made at all.

-Eric

120 posted on 07/08/2002 12:51:59 PM PDT by E Rocc
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