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New metal alloy is super strong, easy to cast
Boston Globe ^ | 7/5/2002 14:23 | Peter Svensson, Associated Press

Posted on 07/05/2002 6:20:45 PM PDT by ChadGore

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:07:56 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

NEW YORK (AP) It could be the new superhero of metals.

More than twice as strong as titanium and steel, it doesn't rust and it can be cast like plastic and honed to an edge as sharp as glass.

And like any superhero, it has a weakness: don't heat it too much, or it loses its strength.


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To: Jhoffa_
(imagine a pitted and corroded hood or dash ornament.. nasty and ugly, but good enough to use to create a mold. Hey!)

And the new one will faithfully reproduce the contour of the pits and corrosion?

21 posted on 07/05/2002 10:56:00 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck

LOL!

No, no..silly. you fill them with whatever you want..

And it doesn't have to be pretty.. It just has to be smooooth.

22 posted on 07/05/2002 11:02:37 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: Willie Green
The temperature problem does seem a barrier to many applications, but I question the reporter's use of the word "malleable" and suspect he meant to say "molten".

Do your research. Soft Steel melts at 2730 but is malleable at the temperature in the article.

23 posted on 07/05/2002 11:04:21 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: Hank Rearden
Ping! :)
24 posted on 07/05/2002 11:24:12 PM PDT by mn12
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To: max_rpf
Skylight material in hail country !!!

Stay Safe !

25 posted on 07/05/2002 11:31:54 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: Darth Sidious
LOL !............No you can't have a red ryder BB gun ! You'll put your eye out !

Stay Safe !

26 posted on 07/05/2002 11:33:21 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: ChadGore
Its still not ready for prime time. And it''ll never be used in sports equipment like baseball bats and bicycle frames where a combo of light weight and strength are desirable qualities. Oh well back to the drawing board.
27 posted on 07/05/2002 11:37:06 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: ChadGore
materials technology bump
28 posted on 07/05/2002 11:37:55 PM PDT by soundbits
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To: Vidalia
It's not good for heating.
29 posted on 07/05/2002 11:41:59 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: stands2reason
It's good enough for typical cooking temperatures... unless you cook broccoli above 750 degrees.

And it does sound like a good art material, as someone already said.

30 posted on 07/05/2002 11:51:39 PM PDT by piasa
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To: ChadGore
I can see all kinds of stuff this could be used for. But like a lot of us we need more info. Like can it hold threads what kind of pressure can it with stand ect. The cost factor isn't that big. About the price of titanum they are making lots of stuff from that and people are buying it.
31 posted on 07/06/2002 4:15:21 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: Jorge
Also good points. Still in all, I'd have to think that there will certainly be a fair number of applications where such a material can be cost-justified. A little spreadsheet manipulation is all it should take to determine whether or not Liquidmetal would be cost-justified, even with the higher costs of material, mold construction, etc.

I wonder what Liquidmetal v. 2 is going to be like??? :)

32 posted on 07/06/2002 5:33:00 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: ChadGore
Can this stuff really hold 1 micron ?
If its softening at 750F, the melting point is probably low enough for permanent molding or even die casting. If the shrinkage is zero then yes, they probably could. Though the molds would be expensive as well as the material.

With a mixture of the metals they mentioned they aren't going to replace depleted uranium. Those are all low to medium density metals, and the very purpose of using uranium in shells is its high density.

I'd be concerned about the long term properties of this stuff...does it start recrystallizing over the years even at room temperature?

-Eric

33 posted on 07/06/2002 5:52:48 AM PDT by E Rocc
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
bttt
34 posted on 07/06/2002 9:00:49 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: ChadGore
Gee, neat-o! bump
35 posted on 07/06/2002 9:56:48 AM PDT by FreedomFarmer
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To: ChadGore
Anyone know how this material compares with a metal called Nambe, came out of the Los alamos Labs years ago, and used for decorative pieces now.

I have a bowl made of the metal, which appears much like stainless steel.

36 posted on 07/06/2002 10:54:24 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: cinFLA
Do your research. Soft Steel melts at 2730 but is malleable at the temperature in the article.

Well mister, I really don't need to be lectured on the iron-carbon equilibrium diagram, but I don't mind taking a closer look at the temperatures mentioned.

"By comparison, steel becomes malleable at about 2,100 degrees."

The only identifiable phase change "at about 2100 degrees" that occurs on the equilibrium diagram is the solidus that occurs at 2066°F when Ledeburite freezes for alloys containing more than 2% carbon (generally referred to as "Cast Irons")

The term "steel" is generally applied to Iron alloys containing less than 2% carbon, however the "soft" steel (0.1%) that you refer to, or "mild" steel (0.2% to 0.3%) contain significantly less carbon. Yes, these low carbon steels have melting points somewhere around 2700-2800°F if you ignore distinctions between the solidus and liquidus phase changes. But there is no phase change at 2100° in this region of the chart where steel would magicly become "malleable".

In fact, "hot working" of steel generally refers to metal forming that occurs above 1333°F -- although forming is easier (and preferred) at higher temperatures that are still below the solidus. Nevertheless, steel can still be "cold" worked at lower temperatures to the extent that it is still "malleable". Granted, it may be somewhat less "malleable" than at higher temperatures, but there is no critical 2100°F temperature where it suddenly "becomes malleable" as this article asserts.

37 posted on 07/06/2002 11:11:51 AM PDT by Willie Green
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To: ChadGore
bttt

Happy Birthday Mr.President!

Don't miss this one.

38 posted on 07/06/2002 11:19:23 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: ChadGore
I can see all kinds of applications for this stuff.

Wonder what kind of a sword or an axe head you could get from this... or even armor plate. Something to look at anyway.

39 posted on 07/06/2002 11:25:00 AM PDT by Centurion2000
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To: max_rpf
To bad they stole the idea from Enterprise Chief Engineer Montgomery Scott who brought the idea to 1984 while on a mission to save the Earth in the future. Heh.
40 posted on 07/06/2002 11:38:00 AM PDT by Bogey78O
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