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To: capecodder
I share these fears, however, there is one interesting counterargument. Those who make this counterargument, such as Milton Friedman, make a comparison between vouchers and foodstamps. Now...of course, there is a very negative side to this comparison; namely that vouchers are a form of welfare.

The positive aspect is that the introduction of foodstamps did not lead to more government regulation of supermarkets. This is because, according to people who hold this view, the consumer consumer controls the spending of the foodstamp. Because the consumer will also control the spending of the voucher, they conclude that same conditions (e.g. no regulation) will apply for schools.

I haven't thought of a good response to this argument.

7 posted on 07/05/2002 7:06:55 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Austin Willard Wright
Supreme Court decisions carry a lot of weight, wouldn't you agree?

Regulations always follow government funding.

Here's the start of a list of likely hypothetical scenarios: How long before a civil rights suit v. private school that doesn't accept a student with a voucher?

How long before the government requires certain accrediation of schools accepting vouchers? What about teacher training? What about hiring practices and civil rights?... _________

Source: Berit Kjos

http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/Q-A/charter.htm

Vouchers & Charter Schools

Question: What do you think of vouchers and charter schools? Are you for or against them?

Answer: I can best answer your question with a quote from the glossary in Brave New Schools and the corresponding footnotes. Those who have my book can find these at the end of the footnote section in the appendix. The "strings" attached to vouchers apply all the more to charter schools, which also release the state from many laws that protect parents:

VOUCHERS: Tuition credits used by parents to pay for their child's education in a private school of their choice. The catch: any school accepting these vouchers must conform to national goals and standards. "A simple fact of political life is that public regulation follows money.... Private schools that operate with public money will be subject to public regulations...." "Changes, big changes, are needed," wrote Albert Shanker, President of the American Federation of Teachers. "...it may be that we can't get the big changes we need without choice."

In March, 1984, the U.S. Supreme court ruled that private schools are subject to government regulations even if they receive no direct federal funds. The Court ruled six to three that a private school may be held accountable for federal rules because it enrolls students who receive tuition money from the government. Even though the checks are payable to individual students, not the school, the Court said any scholarships, loans, or grants to students "constitute federal financial assistance to that entity." The opinion, written by Justice Buron R.White, found that the language of the law "contains no hint that Congress perceived a substantive difference between direct institutional assistance and aid received by a school through its student."

On March 22, 1988, P.L. 100-259 became the law of the land. "The measure would extend the reach of four civil right measures that were limited by a 1984 U.S. Supreme court ruling, Grove City College v. Bell. The ruling said that only the 'program or activity' of an entity receiving federal funds, not the entire institution, was covered by anti-discrimination laws. The legislation would reverse the ruling and make it clear that the entire institution must not discriminate if any component receives federal aid." (Congressional Quarterly Weekly, p. 774) Cited by Virginia Birt Baker, "Educational 'Choice'" Free World Research Report, March 1993.

15 posted on 07/05/2002 7:22:02 AM PDT by capecodder
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To: Austin Willard Wright
Because the consumer will also control the spending of the voucher, they conclude that same conditions (e.g. no regulation) will apply for schools.

There is one flaw in your example, the government doesn't have a monoply to protect in the grocery industry.

20 posted on 07/05/2002 7:36:02 AM PDT by c-b 1
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To: Austin Willard Wright
Because the consumer will also control the spending of the voucher, they conclude that same conditions (e.g. no regulation) will apply for schools.

Private schools are already heavily regulated by the government. The regulation will only get worse if vouchers are added to the mix.

42 posted on 07/05/2002 8:10:06 AM PDT by Protagoras
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