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Routier asks judge to retest evidence - Convicted baby killer tries to weasel out of death penalty
Associated Press ^ | July 3, 2002 | Associated Press Staff

Posted on 07/04/2002 9:24:31 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP


Routier asks judge to retest evidence

07/03/2002

Associated Press

Dallas - Death row inmate Darlie Routier was back in a Dallas courtroom today, wanting to retest evidence used to convict her for stabbing her two sons in 1996.

Routier's attorneys are asking to retest the night gown she was wearing the night of the killings, which had cuts and blood evidence. The attorneys also want to test carpet, tile and floor samples to see if bloody footprints were left by someone else.

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Darlie Routier

State District Judge Robert Francis said he would review their request and possibly rule on it Monday.

Routier's attorneys have said they have new evidence that a bloody fingerprint found inside the house did not belong to Darlie Routier, her husband, her sons or investigators.

Routier has maintained her innocence and says an intruder killed her sons, 5-year-old Damon and 6-year-old Devon.

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AP / FILE
Devon (left) and Damon Routier


Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/latestnews/stories/070302dnmetroutierhearing.454077d5.html


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: babykiller; convictedmurderer; darlieroutier; deathpenalty; murder
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To: rollin
In my extended family, every child is covered with a 25,000 life insurance policy upon birth. These policies can be used later on for other purposes including education or home down-payments through the buildup of cash value. But then we believe in providing for our own as opposed to letting others provide for us through the welfare system.

Maybe I understand finance well, and save for my daughter in other ways. Do you have any idea what the commissions and fees are on anything other than term life insurance policies?

So just maybe you will admit that the life insurance policy is not necessarily as big an issue as you think.

OK, fine.

But then, I forget, you have all the facts and have convicted her based upon your life experiences.

I believe that I do have all the facts. You seem to think that I don't know about two similar "M.O."'s, but you won't provide a link. You also won't answer this question: Are the M.O.'s similar in that a stranger broke in and stabbed kids, or just that there have been two other break-ins in the years since the murders?

21 posted on 07/04/2002 12:00:41 PM PDT by Rodney King
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To: writmeister
We criticize the legal team because they are attempting to re-try this case piece-meal in the press. First, one new theory and then another new theory .....

If what they are doing is illegal, it behooves the judge to issue a gag order. If s/he's not doing so, then maybe it's time to let people know this judge ought not be reelected.

But in general I have no problem with legal maneuvering so long as it is within the realm of what is legal.

22 posted on 07/04/2002 12:22:18 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: rollin
I forget, you have all the facts and have convicted her based upon your life experiences.

This is a senseless statement. Routier was convicted, not by the "life experiences" of a commentator on an Internet message board, but by a jury of her peers in accordance with the laws of the state of Texas.

In that case it is people like YOU who refuse to see facts, and would rather fit the facts to your own prejudices. There's nothing wrong with doing that (so long as you aren't in a position of authority), but I think you ought to know that your opinion is worth no more nor less than anyone else's, but it is NOTHING next to the deliberations of our legal system.

If twelve good men and women found her guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, that is MORE than a preponderant weight against her. She has had her day in court, and she's working out her legal options now. In the end, if she dies for this crime, it will be because she did the murders.

23 posted on 07/04/2002 12:26:53 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: Illbay
She certainly looks different with all that bleach grown out her hair. BTW, my parents had insurance on me and I have insurance on my nieces and nephew who live with me. No-one wants to think about it but children die. It's prudent to have something to bury them with.

As for Darlie, I think she did it; and Darin either was in on it, or simply (deliberately) stayed upstairs while the slaughter was going on.
24 posted on 07/04/2002 1:59:46 PM PDT by thathamiltonwoman
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To: rollin
You obviously have your facts wrong. First of all, their home was in Rowlett, not Garland. So what if there were breakins in Garland neighborhoods (or Rowlett for that matter)? Haven't heard of any children being murdered.

All of Darlie's many pieces of diamond jewelry were left on the countertop undisturbed. Darlie killed her boys because she is a narcissist sociopath. I believe Darren was involved as well.

25 posted on 07/04/2002 3:09:59 PM PDT by NewsGal
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To: NewsGal; thathamiltonwoman
Ladies:

Have you ever noticed that when murders of children by their mothers occur, the tendency on FR among many of the females here is to assume the husband was in on it as well?

Why is that? Is it that we cannot accept the notion that a woman would be so cold? But the FACT is that in terms of the PROBABILITY of death, children have more to fear from their mothers than from any other single individual.

Mothers DO kill their children, with alarming regularity. Fathers do it as well, but far less frequently. In fact, a woman's children are killed more frequently by her husband or boyfriend who is not the father than by their own biological father.

Please understand: I'm not criticizing. I'm simply pointing out a certain attitude that the both of you exhibit that I find frequently on FR. I just thought you might want to do some research and reexamine your assumptions.

I hope this doesn't come off to harsh; it wasn't meant to be.

26 posted on 07/04/2002 4:23:47 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: Illbay
12 people let O.J. go. You agree with that?? This case has a mountain of reasonable doubt. Routier should have never been convicted.
27 posted on 07/04/2002 4:26:14 PM PDT by Greg Weston
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To: Greg Weston
I don't agree with the O.J. verdict, no. But that was a tainted jury. Texas ain't California (thank God).

I believe I said that...

28 posted on 07/04/2002 4:36:23 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: Illbay
"In the end, if she dies for this crime, it will be because she did the murders."

And this is written in stone where? Several jurors in Routier's trial now believe she is not-guilty. "Evidence" was presented in a misleading fashion.

29 posted on 07/04/2002 4:46:26 PM PDT by Greg Weston
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To: Greg Weston
She might get a new trial, then.

BTW, what's your dog in this fight?

30 posted on 07/04/2002 4:47:58 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: Illbay
Just think there is a ton of resonable doubt in this case. Who wants to see someone fry if that is the case?
31 posted on 07/04/2002 4:54:43 PM PDT by Greg Weston
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To: Greg Weston
And what is your reasonable doubt? Now is the time to present it. Do you doubt that the screen was cut from the inside?
32 posted on 07/04/2002 5:10:23 PM PDT by Rodney King
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To: rollin
I see you have run away rather than back up your statements.
33 posted on 07/04/2002 5:10:48 PM PDT by Rodney King
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To: rollin
"the Routier grave side services did not agree with their own perceived idea of grief."

Amen, I always thought this woman was convicted, not on the facts, but on that 'silly-string' ceremony on the kids' graves. Everyone grieves differently, for every child they'll ever lose. Any parent who has ever lost a child surprises themselves in that regard. But the fact that they don't follow some CBS soap opera central casting script when their kid dies doesn't prove they killed their kid. It's absolutley not a legitimate reason to send someone to Huntsville, without other incriminating facts. This woman was convicted on the basis of prejudicial evidence, no question about it. She should have a new trial. (She'll probabaly be convicted again, but at least some of us Texans can feel better that she's on death row because of the facts, not because of some lame, mass-hysterical 'All My Children' sentiment about how she should have acted at her sons' grave.)

34 posted on 07/04/2002 5:11:15 PM PDT by leilani
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To: Greg Weston
Several jurors in Routier's trial now believe she is not-guilty

Please produce a link.

35 posted on 07/04/2002 5:11:54 PM PDT by Rodney King
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To: Greg Weston
Not I. But I have more faith in the system than you do. I think that we are very deliberate about "frying" people. There is no evidence that any "innocent" person has ever been snuffed--though the Left acts like it's an established fact.
36 posted on 07/04/2002 5:22:42 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: leilani
It's absolutley not a legitimate reason to send someone to Huntsville, without other incriminating facts.

That in itself is a preposterous statement. Either you are unacquainted with this case, or have chosen to ignore the overwhelming evidence against this woman.

37 posted on 07/04/2002 5:26:10 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: Illbay
"It's absolutley not a legitimate reason to send someone to Huntsville, without other incriminating facts"

No, no no!!! As a matter of fact I think, as a non-juror who has never been privvy directly to this trial's evidence, there are nonetheless some pretty serious reasons to suspect both Mom & DAD in this case. I just want them to be convicted for the right reasons so that everybody can respect our justice system in the morning, if you get my drift.Getting a quickie conviction on the basis of mass-hystrical-emotion doesn't serve our society one teeny bit. At all.

38 posted on 07/04/2002 5:36:56 PM PDT by leilani
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To: leilani
See my reply no. 26 for my response.
39 posted on 07/04/2002 5:39:57 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: Slyfox
You may very well be right. I haven't followed it that closely. I do believe in due process rights, however.

We'll see what happens.

40 posted on 07/04/2002 5:42:54 PM PDT by Al B.
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