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MY VOTE IS FOR SALE
Vanity | July 4, 2002 | B. A. Conservative

Posted on 07/04/2002 6:16:32 AM PDT by B. A. Conservative

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To: Jim Robinson; nopardons
To: exodus; Jim Robinson
Jim, exodus is a liar. As you can easilt see, by reading some of my posts, on this thread, I have given many substancial reasons. So have you.

I take this as a personal attack, by exodus, in a feeble attempt at confrontation. Please advise.

exodus, if your only means of refutation, is a lie, then you have failed and failed miserably.
# 258 by nopardons

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Oh, no.

Jim. I take nopardon's lack of reasoning, lack of evidence, and falling back on telling Daddy that I'm being mean to her as completely, falling down, hilariously funny.

Thank you, nopardons. I had almost fallen asleep waiting for your "reasons."

261 posted on 09/03/2002 2:22:41 AM PDT by exodus
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To: exodus
Good points. The "nobody votes 3rd party crowd" aren't going to be swayed though. They'll vote for Hillary Clinton if the GOP runs her for president.
262 posted on 09/03/2002 2:25:15 AM PDT by Twodees
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To: Jim Robinson
The Republicans protected Clinton, and allowed his treason, and the violation of our security, to continue. That's a big problem for me.

To: exodus
Big problem for me too, but for all the other reasons I am not going to be content to allow the Democrats to continue holding the Senate. Too many judges are being held up as it is. Also, would hate to see the House fall to the Democrats.
# 260 by Jim Robinson

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I hope they don't lose the House too, Jim.

They could avoid any danger of losing the House, and regain the Senate, by adopting a conservative platform.

We have a majority in the House, 49 percent of the Senate, and the Presidency. Even the people are on our side; you know as well as I do that the majority of our citizens are conservative.

The time to make a stand is now.

263 posted on 09/03/2002 2:30:53 AM PDT by exodus
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To: Jim Robinson; nopardons; exodus
"Please advise"

Yes Jim, please advise her. I can't think of another person who is so desperately in need of some sound advice.

264 posted on 09/03/2002 2:36:19 AM PDT by Scuttlebutt
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To: exodus
Vote them out. It's so simple. Vote out the liberal Democrats and the Congress automatically becomes more conservative. Keep voting them out and we may find renewed life in the Reagan Revolution. Lower taxes? Check! Strong military? Check! Reduced spending? Give us a conservative mandate in the next two or three elections and this time we'll get it!
265 posted on 09/03/2002 2:37:10 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Twodees
To: exodus
Good points. The "nobody votes 3rd party crowd" aren't going to be swayed though. They'll vote for Hillary Clinton if the GOP runs her for president.
# 262 by Twodees

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LOL.

That's something I never even considered.

Think of it, Hillary as a mean, hateful, capitalistic Republican!!

266 posted on 09/03/2002 2:38:01 AM PDT by exodus
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To: Scuttlebutt
LOL.
267 posted on 09/03/2002 2:39:59 AM PDT by exodus
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To: Jim Robinson
Defeating or splitting the Republican Party is a no win situation. Just gives us more Clintons, Torricellis, McKinneys, Davises, etc. No thanks.

You know something Jim, what you say there is undeniable. As much as I'd like to see nearly every single GOP loser in Washington working at McDonalds, what you say above is exactly what would happen.

Problem is our system is deteriorating rapidly no matter who's in power, we all know it. Question is what to do about it.

The idea of working within the system and somehow electing conservatives is commendable, and I'm not even sure I disagree with it. However, we never wind up with conservatives we just keep building this huge, invasive governmental complex.

We need to some MOVEMENT somehow. You once posted something to the effect that you realized you would never see our Republic restored to how it was intended.

That's bullshit. Look at what you've done here? We have a lot of power, we need to start implimenting that power to the max. If we want, what we've done so far can be just the very beginning.

This started with 4 people in my neighborhood and now is becoming a massive force. FR started with a few people who cared and look at what has happened. Just think if we could exponentialize the last five years to the next.

I have a feeling that things are going to get quite interesting in this country in the near future. There is much we can do to affect events as long as we keep our integrity. The first word one sees when they browse here is "FREE", we must never forget that. People like us who love Freedom are like hamsters in a habitrail, we won't stop chewing incessantly until we've busted the cage. I want to bust the cage Jim, so do you, so does everyone else around here.

We have to do something in this lifetime Jim, I don't want you to leave this earth and not see your dreams come true. I sure as hell don't want that for myself.

268 posted on 09/03/2002 2:41:20 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: Jim Robinson
To: exodus
Vote them out. It's so simple. Vote out the liberal Democrats and the Congress automatically becomes more conservative. Keep voting them out and we may find renewed life in the Reagan Revolution. Lower taxes? Check! Strong military? Check! Reduced spending? Give us a conservative mandate in the next two or three elections and this time we'll get it!
# 265 by Jim Robinson

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It sounds simple, but the Republicans in office right now are the ones who have done more damage to our freedom than any Democrat ever did.

The Republicans imposed the Patriot Act on our nation, and have set in motion the framework to create a totalitarian State stronger than any other in history.

269 posted on 09/03/2002 2:46:48 AM PDT by exodus
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To: AAABEST
Well, nothing is going to happen in the forseeable future (except more woe) if we keep turning the reins of power back to the Democrats. The Reagan Revolution must be revived and this time we must keep it alive for the next 40 years or beyond. The Democrats held power for 60 or more years in the last century and we have the socialist state to show for it. Dump the Democrats and keep them dumped!
270 posted on 09/03/2002 2:48:10 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: exodus
Vote out the Democrats and give the Republicans a conservative mandate. Dump the Democrats and keep dumping them and both parties will get the message that it's time for the pendulum to start swinging back to the right. It's over full-tilt to the left now.
271 posted on 09/03/2002 2:50:41 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson; AAABEST
To: AAABEST
Well, nothing is going to happen in the foreseeable future (except more woe) if we keep turning the reins of power back to the Democrats. The Reagan Revolution must be revived and this time we must keep it alive for the next 40 years or beyond. The Democrats held power for 60 or more years in the last century and we have the socialist state to show for it. Dump the Democrats and keep them dumped!
# 270 by Jim Robinson

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The Reagan Revolution has been demonised for so long that Republicans won't even use the term anymore. Only real conservatives use the term nowadays.

We are so close to having everything we want. As the wise man said, "Every problem is an opportunity."

Even with the Patrot Act chasing our freedom, if the Republicans would gather their courage and fight for what they believe, we have today the best chance ever to reverse the damage done by decades of socialist policies.

Once again, we hold the Presidency, the House, and 49 percent of the Senate. We will never be stronger.

The time to act is now.

272 posted on 09/03/2002 3:01:16 AM PDT by exodus
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To: exodus
Hah! We will be stronger. Much stronger. Turn it back to the Democrats and we'll be wandering in the wilderness for another 40 years (assuming the nation survives that long).
273 posted on 09/03/2002 3:07:04 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: exodus
By the way, 49 of the Senate is like second best in a gun fight. No thanks. We need 60 or more.
274 posted on 09/03/2002 3:08:01 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
To: exodus
Vote out the Democrats and give the Republicans a conservative mandate. Dump the Democrats and keep dumping them and both parties will get the message that it's time for the pendulum to start swinging back to the right. It's over full-tilt to the left now.
# 271 by Jim Robinson

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The only way that could be true is if the Republican Party itself was composed of leftists; Republicans are in control of our government today.

If you're right, the only chance we have is to dump the Republican Party and en masse adopt a third party as our own.

I'm willing to follow your lead, Jim. Constitutional Party, Libertarian, whatever, as long as it's conservative.

Say the word.

I believe that a party composed of politically aware, activist conservatives would draw a massive amount of grassroot support.

275 posted on 09/03/2002 3:13:17 AM PDT by exodus
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To: exodus
Hah! Join a party with a few thousand members? What the heck for? Have you no sense of reality at all? Give me 60 Senators and then I'll agree that we are controlling the government. Forty nine leaves Daschle & Co firmly in charge.

Goodnight.

Vote 'em out! And keep 'em out!
276 posted on 09/03/2002 3:20:40 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
I'm not talking about Dems or Repubs, they're ... well what they are. I'm actually getting tired of talking about them, I want to talk about US, the people. Our problems are starting to go beyond our useless politicians.

Jim seriously, look objectively at the situation. How many politicians are useful for the purposes of a Free Republic? You might be able to name a few, but it would be very few. Almost all are participating in the devolution at this point.

We're really in a bad way here, if something doesn't give it's going to get much worse. That's not rhetoric it's pure science and history.

It's going to take a lot more than tactical lever pulling on election day to right this barge.

277 posted on 09/03/2002 3:23:10 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: Jim Robinson
To: exodus
Hah! We will be stronger. Much stronger. Turn it back to the Democrats and we'll be wandering in the wilderness for another 40 years (assuming the nation survives that long).
# 273 by Jim Robinson

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I don't believe so.

The Republican Party is down to people who blindly vote for anything labeled "Republican," and the liberals who have realized that they can find a home with the party that doesn't have the stink of Clinton on it.

The strong "undecided" support has evaporated. That can be seen by the fact that the Senate Republican's projected gain of about 20 extra seats over their already-existing majority has been converted into a Senate controlled by the Democratics.

If the Republican Party gains any more power, it won't be coming from our side of the fence.

278 posted on 09/03/2002 3:24:12 AM PDT by exodus
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To: Jim Robinson
Goodnight, Jim.

Sleep well.
279 posted on 09/03/2002 3:25:23 AM PDT by exodus
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To: Jim Robinson
To: exodus
By the way, 49 of the Senate is like second best in a gun fight. No thanks.
We need 60 or more.
# 274 by Jim Robinson

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Ronald Reagan fought alone.

Look what he accomplished.

We have the Presidency, the House, and ONE man less than the Democrats have in the Senate.

If this isn't the time to make a stand, it will never come.

280 posted on 09/03/2002 3:35:03 AM PDT by exodus
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