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Thursday, July 4, Independence Day, 2002

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1 posted on 07/03/2002 11:10:21 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: AuntB; nunya bidness; GrandmaC; Washington_minuteman; buffyt; Grampa Dave; blackie; CyberRebel; ...

Hugh Hewitt MEGA PING!!!


2 posted on 07/03/2002 11:11:34 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
One thing that has really stood out for me since 9/11 is that I remember clintoon/bore during the '92 campaign, complaining about how President Bush spent too much time on foriegn affairs and not enough on domestic.
4 posted on 07/04/2002 12:00:54 AM PDT by fellowpatriot
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To: JohnHuang2
There always chasing the wrong dog. Just stick him in prison.

The Vice President Broke The Law

The Washington Post
By David A. Price
Wednesday, April 2 1997; Page A17

Partial Transcript:

Did the vice president break the law when he made fund-raising calls from his office? The Post considered that question ["The Independent Counsel Issue," editorial, March 16] and came down firmly on the side of agnosticism. That's too bad, because the law on this issue is pretty simple -- and Al Gore was on the wrong side of it.

Section 607 of the federal criminal code says, "It shall be illegal for any person to solicit or receive any contribution" in a federal building. The law carries a penalty of up to three years in prison.

Gore and others have maintained that his calls were perfectly all right. But that isn't what the administration's own lawyers have been telling it up to now. In a July 12, 1993, memorandum circulated to the White House staff, the White House counsel at the time, Bernard Nussbaum, correctly pointed out that "solicitation or receipt of contributions in Federal buildings" is "prohibited." Period. Nussbaum advised: "White House telephones must not be used, even locally, for regular committee activities such as recruiting volunteers or fundraising."

And lest anyone not get the message, he added, "Certain staffers may also be subject to investigation and possible prosecution by an Independent Counsel in connection with alleged violations of these statutes."

One of Nussbaum's successors, Abner Mikva, also warned against West Wing fund-raising in an April 27, 1995, memo. (The Bush administration issued similar guidance to its White House staff in 1991.)

Nussbaum and Mikva were addressing the staff, not Bill Clinton and Al Gore. But on its face, section 607 applies to the president and vice president the same as anyone else -- as the Carter Justice Department concluded in a 1979 legal opinion.

...Another of Clinton's former White House counsels, Jack Quinn, claimed in a New York Times op-ed article last month that Gore didn't solicit "on" government property because he was phoning people who were someplace else.

To support this notion, he pointed to a 1908 Supreme Court case, where someone had mailed a solicitation letter to a government building. The court said there was still solicitation in the building, where the letter was received. And since Gore's solicitations were "received" outside the White House, Quinn explained, Gore is safe.

What Quinn didn't mention was the inconvenient fact that the court was upholding the conviction in that case. The court was broadening the reach of the law, not narrowing it. The court held that you can be guilty under section 607 even if you weren't on government property. It didn't say -- nor would it have made sense to say -- that the reverse is true: that you are innocent if you are on government property and soliciting the outside world.

The soft-money defense, raised by Attorney General Janet Reno, holds that the law does not cover donations to a political party rather than an election campaign. Reno based that conclusion on the fact that the law covers only donations made "for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office."

Of course, that was exactly why Gore was beating the bushes for money -- whether he happened to be asking his donors to write the checks to Clinton-Gore '96 or to the Democratic National Committee. Gore has said so himself: At his March 3 news conference, he repeatedly said the phone calls were to raise funds for "the campaign."

...The anti-solicitation law isn't rocket science.

The writer covers legal affairs for Investor's Business Daily.

Justice Department Failed to Review Legality of Gore White House Solicitations


'My Counsel Advises Me . . . ' - for the record - The Wall Street Journal - March 5, 1997
"As 18 U.S.C. 607(a) states: "It shall be unlawful for any person to solicit or receive any contributions . . . in any room or building occupied in the discharge of official duties . . . any person who violates this section shall be fined not more than $5,000, or imprisoned not more than three years, or both."

Documents Show Gore Made 86 Fund-Raising Calls From His Office

The New York Times
By Leslie Wayne
August 27, 1997

WASHINGTON -- Vice President Al Gore, who has played down his role in making fund-raising calls from the White House, was asked by the Democratic National Committee to make 140 fund-raising telephone calls and made 86, all from his White House office, according to documents that have been turned over to congressional investigators.

The calls were made to Democratic donors thought willing to give at least $25,000. Another set of calls, also from the White House, was made by the vice president's former chief of staff, Jack Quinn.

Gore acknowledged in March that he had made fund-raising calls "on a few occasions." Earlier this month, the White House put the number at 48. Documents obtained Tuesday, said to offer the best information White House officials have, indicate a number about twice as high.

"Last March, Mr. Gore made a statement on the fund-raising calls he made from his West Wing office," said a White House official, speaking on condition of anonymity. "More documents have become available and that analysis bears out the statement that Mr. Gore said in March. They are consistent."

The White House also repeated Gore's assertion that his solicitations did not violate the Hatch Act, which forbids federal employees to engage in partisan fund-raising activities from federal buildings. Congressmen generally leave federal buildings and make solicitation calls from their party headquarters.

But the vice president has argued that "no controlling legal authority or case" has ever tested his situation. The Hatch Act does not apply to the White House and the president, except for fund-raising activities, and on that point, many lawyers have differed over an array of legal distinctions since Gore's March statement.

"There was nothing inappropriate about these calls," the White House official said. "We feel very confident that nothing was illegal or inappropriate."

The documents obtained Tuesday have been turned over to the Senate Government Affairs committee, which is investigating campaign finance abuses. This fall, when the committee resumes its hearings, Gore's activities and those of the Democratic National Committee will come under closer scrutiny.

The calls made by Gore were to the top tier of Democratic donors and fell into two main categories: "cold calls" to 56 donors, in which Gore directly asked for a donation, and "thank you" calls to 30 other givers who had pledged big donations but had not yet forwarded the money to the Democratic National Committee.

The "thank you" calls, which the White House official acknowledged were fund raising in nature, were typically in conjunction with a special Democratic fund-raising gala.

"These are big givers, they are multiple givers," the White House official said.

It is unclear how much money was raised by these phone calls, which were made using a Clinton-Gore campaign telephone credit card. The campaign was reimbursed by the Democratic National Committee.

For each solicitation Gore was to make he was given a call sheet that provided the amount of a donor's previous contribution, personal background information about the giver and "talking points" to remind Gore about any personal meeting he may have had with the donor.

For instance, a call sheet for Ann Getty, a member of the Getty oil family, described her as a philanthropist and reminded Gore that they had met in San Francisco in October and discussed a media campaign. Ms. Getty was asked for a $50,000 contribution. On the top of her call sheet in large handwritten letters was the word: DONE.

Of the 56 people whom Gore called to ask for money, 46 had a conversation with the vice president. He was unable to connect with 10 others.

Among those who talked to Gore were Leon Hess, chairman of Amerada Hess Corp.; Jim Hormel, chairman of Equidex, parent of the Hormel meat and packaging company; Eli Broad, a Los Angeles real estate developer; Marvin Davis, a Los Angeles oil and real estate executive; Merv Adelson, a Los Angeles entertainment industry executive; and Penny Pritzker, a member of the Chicago real estate family.

The call sheets also suggested pitches. Regarding a Florida lawyer, the call sheet said: "Ask him to participate in Miami Gala and contribute 100 K." Of a donor with a Spanish surname, Gore was warned, "He only speaks broken English." And of a New York executive, Gore was told, "Tony has mentioned he is interested in making a major contribution. Ask Tony to give $50,000."

The "thank you" phone calls followed a similar pattern. They were made to co-chairmen of a May 1996 Democratic fund-raising gala in Washington and of Gore's fund-raising salute to President Clinton in June 1995.

Co-chairmen were people who pledged either to donate or raise at least $25,000. The White House official said Gore made no calls to anyone donating less than $25,000.

In these calls, Gore thanked donors for their fund-raising pledges and said he was "counting on" them to follow through with the money.

Documents were also released showing call sheets for Quinn, Gore's former chief of staff, who was given 32 people to call, each of whom had donated a minimum of $25,000. These calls, too, were made from the White House. The call sheets include Quinn's handwritten notes showing whom he spoke to and when.


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Gore's Calls On Public Dime
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Justice Department looks at Gore's fund-raising calls


'To Avoid Such a Disgrace'

The New York Times
By William Safire
September 7, 1997

WASHINGTON -- If by the first week in October Attorney General Janet Reno does not seek appointment of Independent Counsel, she may well be the first Cabinet member since William Belknap in 1876 to be impeached.

That is the clear import of three coordinated letters, all dated Sept. 3 and delivered to the Justice Department last week.

One is a 23-page missive signed by every member of the majority of the House Judiciary Committee, delineating evidence that Federal crimes may have been committed by officials covered by the Independent Counsel Act. The crimes include bribery, use of the White House for political purposes, misuse of tax-exempt organizations and extortion of campaign contributions.

The second letter, from every member of the majority of the House Rules Committee, notes that the weak excuse given by Ms. Reno for refusing to trigger the act -- that Vice President Gore's solicitations from the White House were only for "soft money" -- had been shattered by the revelation that the Democratic National Committee allocated funds raised by Gore from Federal property as "hard money" for the Clinton-Gore campaign.

Because Congressional committees do not issue threats, a third letter came from an individual member, House Rules Chairman Gerald Solomon, to inform her of the serious consequences of her continued stonewalling.

"With credible evidence reported by Mr. Robert Woodward in today's Washington Post that Vice President Gore . . . may have committed a felony," wrote Solomon, "I can not conceive you can so willfully neglect your duty . . . I should inform you that the mood in Congress to remove you grows daily. I beg you to avoid such a disgrace by appointing a special counsel today."

If it should ever come to that, Ms. Reno's best defense would be to blame the egregious ineptitude of the vaunted "career professionals" in what Justice laughably calls its Public Integrity Section.

It is now 11 months since the Asian Connection story broke. In all that time, it never occurred to those bumbling Justice bureaucrats to travel a few blocks over to the D.N.C. to find out if money raised from inside the White House was used to buy Clinton-Gore commercials. They waited to read about the crime in The Washington Post. Their lame excuse: "The focus of our energies was elsewhere."

But those conflicted, slow-walking "energies" have not been focused on tracking down and bringing back Little Rock's Charlie Trie, a suspected dirty-money conduit now lying low in Beijing.

We rightly criticize Whitewater Independent Counsel Ken Starr for being slow; Clinton's in-house Dependent Counsel are hip-deep in Democratic molasses.

The sad part of all this is that Reno and Gore are paying the price for the political fund-raising strategy set not by them but by Bill Clinton in his infamous Sept. 13, 1995, Oval Office sellout to Riady, Huang and company.

Gore is a serious person, solid on foreign affairs except for some global warming nuttiness, and I confess to liking and often admiring him. But Clinton's anything-goes political morality reduced Gore to describing 86 wrongful calls as "a few occasions." John Huang, D.N.C. fund-raising vice chairman, brought a Buddhist leader into Gore's office to arrange a temple event; the event illegally raised $100,000; now Gore professes to never have known it was a fund-raiser.

But here's a campaign memo from Gore's scheduler asking him to choose: give a speech to a Long Island Jewish group or "do the two fundraisers in San Joe and LA." Gore replies, "if we have already booked the fundraisers then we have to decline." To call that Buddhist fund-raiser "community outreach" takes a long reach.

Gore's followers, who see him as a Clinton with integrity, are circling the wagons, expecting two years of assault by Independent Counsel when Reno chooses honor over impeachment. Martin Peretz, owner of The New Republic, has just fired his editor-columnist, the gutsily gifted Michael Kelly, for taking too strong a stand against Clinton-Gore campaign crimes.

But John Huang and Johnny Chung will be flipped; Web Hubbell will be re-indicted and Jim Guy Tucker convicted; House committees will surprise; the F.B.I. will shake its shackles; media momentum will build; and justice, despite the Department of Justice, will be done.


Gore Says Campaign Finance Reform a Top Priority

"I believe what he[Gore] did was legal and the Justice Department has to make its own determination, which I am confident they will do based on the law"
Bill Clinton - Martha's Vineyard - Sept. 1997

Reno Grilled on Gore by Senate Panel

Reno decides not to investigate Gore

Republican House and Senate waddle home. Gore runs for President. Now he's running again. Moving on....Moving on....Moving on.

10 posted on 07/04/2002 12:33:27 AM PDT by Uncle Bill
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"But Al Gore lecturing Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld on how to run a war is too much."

Al Gore lecturing anyone how to do anything is the ultimate irony. Here is a "man" who hired a left wing feminist (Naomi Wolf) to teach him how to act like a man. it is beyond belief to me.

13 posted on 07/04/2002 12:50:21 AM PDT by blackbart.223
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20 posted on 07/04/2002 1:15:14 AM PDT by GretchenEE
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To: JohnHuang2
This from a former vice-president who's only duties were to hold the belt of the former fornicator while the prez was playing with interns.
27 posted on 07/04/2002 6:32:33 AM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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Gore will claim he was too busy to get in on terrorist action during Clinton years.

Busy giving away our oil reserves, busy selling old military bases to Chinese companies, busy having ice tea with aliens making campaign contributions, busy selling secrets to China, busy helping the UN create NWO, and way too busy hugging trees...the list goes on and on!

28 posted on 07/04/2002 6:36:47 AM PDT by D. Miles
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See also:
'Al Gore's war on terrorism?' By Hugh Hewitt
Worldnetdaily | 7/03 | Worldnetdaily staff writer
Posted on 7/3/02 5:27 AM Pacific by OPS4
"Worldnetdaily staff writer?"
Not quite as the same as the way that our favorite HH WND poster does it... :)

31 posted on 07/04/2002 8:53:54 AM PDT by RonDog
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I realize that Bush knows he can't acknowleget that buffoon or it will just lead credibility to him, and will open a can of worms, but I wish just once he would just slam the previous administration and shut them up.

I live in the St Louis area and just heard fighter jets flying very low over my house. My husband was awed, but it just made me very sad, albeit very proud of our military. Thanks a lot algore.
32 posted on 07/04/2002 9:03:24 AM PDT by lawgirl
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To be reminded of Gore's own failures which may have contributed to America's vulnerability, readers should, perhaps, visit:
http://www.angelfire.com/md2/L dotvets/Bubba_41.html and http://www.whatreallyhappened. com/RANCHO/CRASH/TWA/TWA_SUIT. html.

He should be called to account for his complicity in such matters each and every time he opens his mouth between now and 2004.
36 posted on 07/04/2002 1:37:42 PM PDT by loveliberty
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To: JohnHuang2
After eight years of clinton/gore it is clear there are NO standards by which to hold democrats accountable.
37 posted on 07/04/2002 3:01:06 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: JohnHuang2
Good for you. What did Clintona and Gore do anyway? They did nothing and more and more about all that is coming out. Gore should be ashamed of himself to attack our great President at this time in our history. Shows how much he cares about our country, doesn't it? How dare he? He can't make a move without someone telling him what to do or what to wear or what color to wear. Imagine...him combing his hair the way our Great former President Ronald Reagan did and moving or trying to move his head like President Reagan. That's gonna change the minds of who?????

It would take a lot more than that silly nonsense for Gore to ever even pretend to come close to the greatness of Ronald Reagan. Mr. Gore...we all knew President Reagan and believe us when we say: "You are no President Reagan." But now...back to the matter at hand.

Al Gore should really back off on this before it backfires on him (although I don't care if it does.) Attacking President Bush, Vice President Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld is like equal to trying to put out a blazing, raging fire with a squirt gun. These great men are in charge of our country and doing a darned great job and they don't need anyone telling them how to do it much less Al Gore. Good Lord.

And another thing...he is ALWAYS on the attack. Attack viciously. Attack hatefully. Attack nasty. Remember the debates when he stood up and TRIED to intimidate then Gov. Bush? How childish was that? Intimidation? Well, it intimidated NO ONE and even his family looked embarassed for him in the audience. That my friends I am sure would have been his method on handling a lot of what has happened in our great country since 9-11.

Oh no my friends...we have the man in charge who should be there and no amount of whining or attacking from Al Gore is gonna change that. Pres Bush and his staff are all grown ups and good solid peole in charge.

Colin Powell was right to say what he did. Condi Rice is such a powerful speaker and knows her stuff you can believe that. So...Gore can whine all he wants. Gore can go on the attack all he wants (that's all he knows how to do) but...we're all better off with George W. Bush at the helm.
38 posted on 07/04/2002 3:20:01 PM PDT by cubreporter
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