Posted on 07/03/2002 7:42:01 PM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian
Under God, Under Man? Jim Babka | Should Christians be upset by court's decision on Pledge of Allegiance?
You must be living under a rock if you havent heard the news. Two pin-head federal judges said that mentioning God in the Pledge of Allegiance violated the First Amendment rights of second-graders (more correctly, one second-graders parent). The pin-head label came from the Rev. Jerry Falwell. He also called them Dumb and Dumber of course he meant that with love. Something must be wrong with me. The news didnt shock me, surprise me, worry me, anger me, or cause me to cry. Im wondering why it caused such a stir?
So whats the problem? It sounds like its already solved. But is it really a good thing if this court decision is overturned? Any time you find yourself in agreement with more than 400 congressmen and the majority of the major media, you better double-check your premises! In 1962, the Supreme Court told public schools that prayer was banned. Since then, indignant Christians have fought for a constitutional amendment and through the courts to restore that right. Forty years later, they have little to show for those efforts. Right around the same time, parochial schools experienced a renaissance. Christian schools sprung up like weeds all over the countryside. If the schools were going to separate God from their kids, then these responsible parents were going to separate their children from the government schools. Im a product of that movement. My parents made the decision to switch me from a public to a Christian school in third gradeIm glad they did. Now Im a home-schooling parent, because I believe my childrens education is my responsibility. Please understand that even the big-government liberals (in Congress and the media) dont like this decision because they believed it was too boldtoo much ado over a very little innocuous thing. The decision was overreaching, and it couldve sounded a well-overdue second alarm for those few Christian parents whove refused to accept the truth up to this point education and religion (for lack of a better term), cannot be separated. This decision couldve added the necessary fuel to the fire needed to separate school and state. Joseph Farah, publisher of WorldNetDaily, put it this way, If responsible Christian and Jewish parents did this [took their children out of government schools] all over America tomorrow, it would set off a revolution in this country. Gone would be the multi-billion-dollar Department of Education boondoggle. Gone would be the condom education. Gone would be the sexual propaganda and the moral relativism. No way tens of millions of parents are going to continue to be soaked in taxes for schools they don't use. Not only will your children be liberated, the whole country would be. It will be like the collapse of the Soviet Unionhundreds of millions of people freed overnight. Instead, the decision will be overturned, victory will be declared, and those Christian parents who insist on deluding themselves about the wonders of public education will remain where they are. The government education factory will continue to teach those children all kinds of things that are alien to most Christian values in areas like the origin of man, sexuality, and especially the environmentbut theyll say the Pledge of Allegiance correctly! Government schools will continue to endorse pantheism, teach secular humanism, and instruct students in post-modern thinking, even going so far as to directly challenge them to question the things their parents and churches teach them. And then theyll pass them to the fifth grade! Studies indicate that 94 percent of the country believes theres a God, 84 percent believe in Jesus Christ, and 80 percent support voluntary prayer in school. Is it reasonable for Christians to expect any higher numbers? Do Christians need to continue fighting for 40 more years to make government schools right, or should they learn their lesson and withdraw their support? Besides, in this case, whats there to fight for? Now I know for some Im about to engage in great sacrilege but whats so great about the Pledge of Allegiance anyway? Who else, but to God do we, as Christians, owe allegiance? Should we swear allegiance to a plot of land or the state that controls it (Exodus 20:3-5, Matthew 5:33-35)? (In our country, doesnt the state owe its allegiance to the people, rather than the other way around?) The pledge was created in 1892 by a socialist named Francis Bellamy as a way to begin indoctrination of children into utopian ways. At the time, Bellamy was a high-ranking official in the National Education Association (NEA) who had recently been forced from his pulpit as a Baptist minister. The words that caused all the controversyunder God werent in Bellamys original. They were added by Congress in 1954 to provide contrast between the United States and godless communism. Bellamys granddaughter said he wouldve resented the change. And in the post-decision analysis Wednesday, constitutional scholars like Douglas Kmiec, Jonathan Turley, and others indicated that the Pledge didnt establish, any particular religion. Rather, they advised, it upheld the tradition that we believe in some kind of a national deity. Thats the bold constitutional argument that will likely be used to restore the Pledge if this case makes it to the Supreme Court (sarcasm intended). If under God is retained in the Pledge, will that really be much of a victory? If it makes 400 congressmen and the media happy, its probably not such a great thing. The need to separate school and state, the history and purpose of the pledge, and the lameness of the constitutional argument, lead me to believe that retaining those words is not only not worth a fight, but its also, ultimately, a loss. |
some 25+ Christian feeder elementary and middle schools(same Chr. school sys)
6 Christian High Schools -ranging from about 400 students to over 1100 students per H.S. (same Chr. school sys.)
and 1 Christian College.
And that's not including all the Catholic, Lutheran and Baptist schools.
Jean
Nope.
Christian Libertarianism in Action.
Your slur don't stick. Back to the drawing-board with you.
Filed under my "last, best hope for the Republic" mental notes.
very cool. God bless.
Because, said the court, a teacher "forces" pupils to say it, which makes it an "establishment of religion."
More importantly, the State forces Parents to pay exorbitant Property, Sales, and Income Taxes for Publik Skooling, and forces Parents to sacrifice their children to the State 40 hours a week.
Under such conditions, the Virtue of Religious Freedom is perverted into the Abomination of Force. One Size does not fit all; "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." - Thomas Jefferson"
There can be only one solution: Abolition of Government Schooling.
Not Compromise. Not Charter Schools. Not Vouchers.
Abolition.
The problem wasn't whether there was faith in schools but rather which was the "right" faith.
Interesting that Horace Mann rejected Calvinism as a part of the process to create state schools.
What's your take?
Regardless of what the No-God set like to think, atheism is a religion. These folks believe that there is no god. Of course, you cannot prove this and so it must be based upon faith. A religion as much as Christianity or Islam. In prohibiting a reference to one god the Courts are establishing a religion in godlessness. That is just what the Constitution prohibits.
Second, the current position on references to God violates the free speach rights of persons in government and the majority of those who wish to observe religious tenets together in the public forum. American citizens have been told that there is a whole section of their lives in which they are barred from observing when they are in the public sphere. This is a pernicious view and smacks of Stalin or Hitler or any number of mean little dictators.
American citizens should be free to speak about God in any forum and in any context. The current Court has enacted a series of laws (not Constitutional positions, new laws under the guise of legal cases) which rob the public of their right to the common community expression of share values and religious views. Those in the minority must accept that the view that they have is not shared by the majority and that the majority has a "god" given right to believe as it chooses. That right includes the public expression of those views in all forums, including one created by the other expression of commonly shared values and goals - government.
They become objects of scorn and derision. They become--*GASP!*--VICTIMS OF HATE CRIME!
LOL!
The problem wasn't that religion could be discussed in school but rather that religion became the wedge the state used to divide and conquer the local schools.
Once the content was granted to a central authority the fight was over. The God became the state.
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