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So due to their fear of weeds, they will let 200,000 acres burn up instead using dozers to break in some real fire lanes.

Yyyyup, but that's only part of it. It's the reason the wack-jobs on the ground fear the dozers.

With these big fires and the fuel build up, manpower is not enough to contain let alone control these fires.

Yyyup, they don't want them contained.

These slimey bastards are even worse than I have thought.

Yyyyyup. Worse, and it starts at the top.

Here's the message I've been telling everybody here for a couple of years now: International Paper, Georgia Pacific, Weyerhauser Group, Crown Paper, et al. want to make money on their forests. They have forests all over the world: Morocco, New Zealand, Canada, Eastern Europe, Russia... The world's forests produce more lumber, paper, and pulp than anybody can use at least at a price they want to get for their goods. To get high prices the big guys need a shortage.

It works just like the California Power Crisis Dave.

You shouldn't be surprised since the game is driven by the class of people with the lobbyists to get it done (you do know that Mark Rey's last job was as a lobbyist with the American Forest & Paper Association?). The folks in charge of the USFS are more than happy to oblige. They can make both the corporate world and the environmentalists happy, and they don't have to risk their people's necks any more than they have to (when a firefighter dies it makes for bad press). It was no different under Dombeck. It's democracy at its finest.

That's what a socialized commons can do.

Henry is right. Private property is the answer. He just doesn't know how to make it happen. The problem is: How should the land be managed for all its attributes so that a guy can make a buck taking care of nature and provide the range of products the public demands?

That's what I created Dave. It's not that radical because it can start on a small scale and grow. The good news is that for the system to optimize the market will be too complex for the big guys or the government to handle. It's a good niche for the small property owner, farmer, and rancher, although those roles will start to overlap as the system matures. It's an abstract idea, and is hard to generalize (as my book sadly proves), but in microcosm it is very simple.

I really don't understand why it's been so hard a sell. What's the alternative?

The problem is so many conservates and moderates don't even realize or know that there is a problem with these envirals.

Or what they have been doing to our country and us for the past two decades.

Then, many of the few who do realize that there is a problem, fall into that bottomless pit for conservatives. They want the government to solve the problem instead of people like you.

However, hang in there. There is a movement that is starting to wake up people. After they awaken, then they must look for a solution besides the governments. I say governments because with Kali, Oregone and the ChiCom east province of Washington, these state governments may be more corrupt than even our entrenched federal bureaucrats.