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The problem is so many conservates and moderates don't even realize or know that there is a problem with these envirals.

Or what they have been doing to our country and us for the past two decades.

Then, many of the few who do realize that there is a problem, fall into that bottomless pit for conservatives. They want the government to solve the problem instead of people like you.

However, hang in there. There is a movement that is starting to wake up people. After they awaken, then they must look for a solution besides the governments. I say governments because with Kali, Oregone and the ChiCom east province of Washington, these state governments may be more corrupt than even our entrenched federal bureaucrats.

You would be surprised. Many of them have been simply duped. I sold a book to a Democrat staffer in the CA State Assembly (the committe he runs shall remain nameless, but let's just say it's critical to the issues we face). This guy is respected for his thoughtfulness and integrity. He truly cares. When he was done with the book (and yes, he did read it all) there was a rueful anger in him. He had recognized how he had been used and how deep the danger we face really is. He was spotted recently at a meeting of Global Warming skeptics.

We have a convert, and that is how it has to work. We have to find the key people, thoughtful leaders who care more about outcomes than ideology, and teach them one by one. They have to bring the rest in their cadres along, and when they need help we had better show up.

You would be surprised how many leftists find my work appealing once they see the corporate fascism running the Slave Party. They recoil in fear and have no place to go. This idea is a place to go with their love of nature that respects their individual rights and allows them to make a buck (something that they rediscover when confronted with reality).

I agree with you GD. After these horrendous wildfires here in AZ, the Governor, Kyl--everyone is fed up with the damage created by the envirals. We need to properly manage our forests, and CO has the answer to that one.